[ RadSafe ] Video of Meter - Up to 10,20 µSv in Ichinoseki, Iwate Prefecture 163km from Fukushima Dai-ichi

Tue May 24 19:03:25 CDT 2016

"Never let a weak understanding of a topic get in the way of a strong
opinion about it" - Me, regularly when dealing with non-government
organisations.

Dean Crouch

BSc (Applied Physics), MARPS, Dip OHS

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On 25 May 2016 at 00:59, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:

> Hello Franz,
>
> I agree. The public does not understand and these groups desire to keep it
> that way. The current public will never be educated, however, the education
> must begin when a child is at an early age, which means that this will take
> a generation or two before the appropriate message is understood. The
> current population is essentially lost and will continue to be swayed by
> individual with an agenda and the promotion of inaccurate data. We should
> speak out whenever, and if we are able to convince one individual with
> accurate information, then that is a good thing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sandy
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 24, 2016, at 09:54, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sandy,
> >
> > I face the ignorance and the prepotence (?) of the "public" whenever I
> open certain newspapers (not only with regard to nuclear!). I know for sure
> that the public does not understand this, but they do not acknowledge that
> they have not the same knowledge as somebody who is has studied these
> topics for years or even worked in this field for decades. Yes, "we are all
> blind to the dangers, we are all bribed". Students with one year of studies
> and not even any courses can the act as "experts" in our newspapers. Anyway
> everybody from certain highly commercial companies (like Greenpeace) is by
> definition an expert. Yes the public does not understand this, but that's
> the method of these groups, to frighten the public, then they will donate.
> It seems we are back to the middle ages, when the church (then Roman
> Catholic) did more or less the same to frighten people from hell and they
> had to "donate" and work for free to build churches and bishops
> > palaces. Look at the methods of Goebbels to "convince" people of the
> necessity of total war. Look at other more recent regimes (including the
> socialist ones) - they do not behave much differently.  I conclude there is
> good tradition in this game. Further conclusion: It is in the interest of
> these groups that the public doesn't not understand what is going on. Any
> comments that the public has to be educated are in my opinion ridiculous:
> "I have made up my mind, don't disturbe me with facts."
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Franz
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Sander Perle
> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:58 PM
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Video of Meter - Up to 10,20 µSv in Ichinoseki,
> Iwate Prefecture 163km from Fukushima Dai-ichi
> >
> > Yes, the reading by itself is meaningless, as many have stated. However,
> the range of readings are insignificant, and of no concern. However,
> consider that the public will not understand this and will be concerned.
> Unfortunate.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sandy
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 23, 2016, at 10:27, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Franz, all accurate as you stated. However, from a pure sense, the dose
> rate if uSv/hour, the annual value would be the 1.58 mSv.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Sandy
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 23, 2016, at 09:47, Franz Schönhofer <
> franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Roger,
> >>>
> >>> At first glance I see that there are no units visible on the scale of
> the
> >>> "meter" - dose meter, dose ratemeter, ratemeter or whatever it is
> supposed
> >>> to be. However the chance seems to be high that it might be
> microSievert.
> >>> Environmental doserates do not make any sense when measured in contact
> with
> >>> some obviously tiny sources - this can easily be proved by using a
> small
> >>> radioactive object like a watch with radium dials or a small piece of
> uranium
> >>> ore and a dose rate -, ratemeter. So there is no meaning of the
> numbers shown.
> >>> Therefore - sorry Dan your calculation is misleading: The doserate in
> close contact with a tiny speck of radioactive material cannot be used to
> calculate the whole body dose to a person. I am happy that this is not the
> case, because have a large collection of uranium ore, thorium ore, uranium
> stained glass and ceramics like fiesta ware, watches with real radiumdials,
> historical radioactive compounds (Joachimsthal) etc. etc. many of them on
> display in my flat. Please don't tell the Austrian authorities, because it
> is forbidden to own any (!!) fissionable material. I have been wondering,
> whether the uranium containing granite stones which make up a high share of
> our pavements and streets in Vienna will be removed or most of the granite
> stones at our graveyards. (No answer yet.)
> >>>
> >>> So far my comment on this "scientific" and terrifying video. It would
> be good for an examination for future health physcists: "What is wrong in
> this video?"
> >>>
> >>> Best regards again!
> >>>
> >>> Franz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Roger Helbig
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 2:51 PM
> >>> To: RADSAFE
> >>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Video of Meter - Up to 10,20 µSv in Ichinoseki,
> Iwate
> >>> Prefecture 163km from Fukushima Dai-ichi
> >>>
> >>>
> https://nuclear-news.net/2016/05/22/up-to-1020-%C2%B5sv-in-ichinoseki-iwate-prefecture-163km-from-fukushima-dai-ichi/
> >>>
> >>> Is this meter or its reader perhaps being mislead due to lack of
> >>> experience or other cause?
> >>>
> >>> Roger Helbig
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