[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 2432, Issue 1 Re: Global deposition of man made radionuclides reference

frank frankdawry at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 17:06:30 CDT 2018


Nicolas BRISSON provided a wonderful resource in his recent reply to a
question about deposition of man made radionuclides, but cautioned about it
being in French. I just wanted to say that Google translate is awesome at
handling translations. Entire websites can be translated with one click.

If you can read French, check the reports at the link below.
IRSN used to publish an annual report on its monitoring of the environment.

Maybe some of the reports are available in English.

https://www.irsn.fr/FR/connaissances/Environnement/surveillance-environnement/resultats/bilans-france-metropolitaine/Pages/1-bilan-surveillance-radioactivite-France-metropolitaine.aspx#.W5-nsqNOK00

In France all the data of environmental monitoring are public.
They are available at this website (https://www.mesure-radioactivite.fr/#/
).
Hope this helps,

Regards

Nicolas BRISSON
Adjoint au chef du LER-Nord
PSE-ENV/SIRSE/LER-Nord
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> From: BRISSON Nicolas <nicolas.brisson at irsn.fr>
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> If you can read French, check the reports at the link below.
> IRSN used to publish an annual report on its monitoring of the environment.
>
> Maybe some of the reports are available in English.
>
>
> https://www.irsn.fr/FR/connaissances/Environnement/surveillance-environnement/resultats/bilans-france-metropolitaine/Pages/1-bilan-surveillance-radioactivite-France-metropolitaine.aspx#.W5-nsqNOK00
>
> In France all the data of environmental monitoring are public.
> They are available at this website (https://www.mesure-radioactivite.fr/#/).
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Regards
>
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> Objet?: [ RadSafe ] Global deposition of man made radionuclides
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> Dear Colleagues,
> I am seeking information on the global deposition of anthropogenic
> radionuclides (e.g., Cs-137, Sr-90, Pu-239, etc.) as a result of releases
> over the past 14 years.
> The question to answer is; To what extent has releases from North Korea
> Nuclear weapons testing, Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant explosion and
> other nuclear incidents (e.g., WIPP Pu release to atmosphere Feb. 2014)
> impacted the background concentration of anthropogenic radionuclides on a
> global or regional scale?
> Any assistance in locating reports or papers will be greatly appreciated.
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> I would like to say to Dan McCarn and all of you:  I have no superior
> knowledge in any subject.  I'm a lifelong learner though.
>
> Dan, I would like you to reply to me privately concerning the text you
> reviewed.
>
> Danny
>
> Danny K. McClung, BS, RRPT, Health Physicist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RadSafe [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Dan McCarn
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 12:06 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] [EXTERNAL] Re: Radsafe participation
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> Dear Danny:
>
> I bow to your superior knowledge.
>
> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
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> > On Sep 13, 2018, at 06:36, McClung, Danny <Danny.McClung2 at va.gov> wrote:
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> > Dan,
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps you meant to say "registered radiation protection
> > technologists" (NRRPT)?  ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please contact me regarding the text you reviewed.
> > cardinalhp at gmail.com<mailto:cardinalhp at gmail.com>
> >
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> >
> > Danny
> >
> >
> >
> > Danny K. McClung, BS, RRPT, Health Physicist
> >
> > Radiological Consultant for Post Deployment Health Service
> >
> > VHA Office of Patient Care Services (10P4Q)
> >
> > Member, VHA National Radiation Safety Committee
> >
> > Member, DoD JPC-7, Radiation Health Effects Research Program
> >
> > e-mail:  danny.mcclung2 at va.gov;  Telephone: 202-527-2323
> >
> > http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/radiation/index.asp
> >
> > ?I CARE?, Integrity-Commitment-Advocacy-Respect-Excellence
> >
> >
> >
> > "The principle on which this country was founded and by which it has
> always been governed is that Americanism is a matter of mind and heart;
> Americanism is not, and never was, a matter of race or ancestry."
> >
> >
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> > - President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RadSafe [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf
> > Of Dan McCarn
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:26 AM
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> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ RadSafe ] Radsafe participation
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> > Tuesday afternoon, yesterday,  I reviewed a textbook for a RCT course,
> which - even as a geologist - I found inadequate. ?What are they teaching
> kids these days??
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> > The most simple algebra was included. The words ?ingrowth? and ?secular
> equilibrium? did not appear at all. I had expected to see a short section
> on the first few Bateman?s Equations, but they were not presented. But
> then, I?m a geologist and all geologists have read Bateman (1910).
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> > Best,
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> > Dan W McCarn, Geologist
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> > 2262 38th Street; Apt. A
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> > Los Alamos, NM 87544 USA
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> >>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 01:04, Rees, Brian G <brees at lanl.gov<mailto:
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