Re: Re: abombs]

["edith gbur" <egbur@adelphia.net>]

While I don't agree with your position that the use of the
atom bomb was justified and used to shorten the
war your message was effective in encouraging  others
to become sensitivity to their ethnocentrism and racism.
 I wish to refer you to this site for an explanation. --
http://ds.dial.pipex.com/cndscot/magazine/hiroshim.htm#why

  This  is an exerpt. " Why was the
atom bomb used ? The decision by the US to build the atomic bomb was taken
during the second world war. The first bomb was tested on 16th July 1945 in
the desert in NewMexico. At the time when the atom bombs were dropped the
war against Japanwas drawing to a close. Some Americans said that the bombs
were dropped tobring the war to a swift end and that if they hadn't been
used then many American soldiers would have been killed invading Japan.
However by August
1945 Japan was on the point of surrender. Many parts of Japan had already
been damaged by conventional bombing.

It has been suggested that the bomb was dropped more as a signal to Russia
than to end the war. The war would probably have ended very soon anyway.
Russia was due to enter the war against Japan on 8th August and the US were
already anticipating a future confrontation with Russia.

   Best!
  Edith Gbur
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From: "William V Lipton" <liptonw@dteenergy.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: abombs]


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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: abombs
> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 10:42:31 -0400
> From: Norman & Karen Cohen <norco@bellatlantic.net>
> To: William V Lipton <liptonw@dteenergy.com>
> References: <3989FFD0.334B8307@bellatlantic.net>
> <398AA229.A69C67AF@dteenergy.com>
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> no problem, go ahead.
>
> ...
>
> norm
>
>
> William V Lipton wrote:
>
> > With your permission, I'd like to post this to RADSAFE.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Norman & Karen Cohen wrote:
> >
> > > I still can't post to radsafe, only read messages. MY group, the
Coalition for P/J, has sponsored visits from Hibakusha for years during
Hiroshima/Nagasaki week. And we always make it clear in our press releases
and handouts that
> > > we hear this testiony not to place blame or responsibility for what
happened, but as a reminded of the
> > > awesome destruction nuke weapons have and could still cause. My dad
fought in WWII. He ended up in the CBI
> > > theatre for the last few years of the war. I respect what he did, and
while I'm a peace activist, in the context of those times, I might well have
fought too.
> > >
> > > norm
> > >
> > > William V Lipton wrote:
> > >
I am appalled by what seems to be the defensiveness and total lack of
compassion on the part of many who responded to this thread.  While I firmly
believe that this use of nuclear weapons was justified as a means to shorten
the war and reduce casualties on both sides, this is not much comfort to
those, including some U.S. POW's, who suffered greatly from this.  Their
calls for peace should be strongly supported.

The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> > > > It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Lipton
> > > > liptonw@dteenergy.com
> > > >
> > > > Michael S Ford wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 'Just think of what a VERY different world we might be in if the
Japanese had never made an unprovoked attack against the United States at
Pearl Harbor.
> > > > >
> > > > > There may not have been any Japanese A-bomb survivor stories to
print.  There may not have been visions of mushroom clouds associated with
the term "nuclear."  We all might have been doing something .... completely
different.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm.....
> > > > >
> > > > > v/r
> > > > > Michael
> > > > > TRAB
> > > > >
> > > > >
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