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Re: Reaching APASE and people like them -- a reposting
I can testify that John Gofman is scientifically literate and is certainly
no dummy. The problem is that he is familiar with material from the NCRP,
ICRP, and BEIR committee, and really believes it.
-----Original Message-----
From: ruth_weiner <ruth_weiner@email.msn.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Reaching APASE and people like them -- a reposting
>>A current graduate of Reed College is required to take a full year
sequence
>of
>>some science (chemistry, physics, or a biological science, including
>>laboratory). Depending on major, he or she might take quite a bit more
>than
>>that. In addition, they must take a year of one of the "soft" sciences
and
>a
>>year of either mathematics and formal logic or a foreign language. I
>suspect
>>the graduation requirements were similar when Ms. Warren graduated from
>Reed.
>
>I know I sound like an academic elitist snob, but just having "taken" a
year
>of chemistry or biology, etc, could mean a lot or a little. What were her
>grades in these classes (does Reed give grades?) What were the
>qualification s of her teachers? In my decades of teaching I saw, believe
>me, lots of crummy students and fair amount of crummy science teaching. I
>am somewhat familiar with basic science teaching at a couple of
>undergraduate programs similar to Reed, and the qualityt of physical
science
>teaching varies greatly.
>
>
>>Ms. Warren's bio raised for me the question -- Why are those of us who
>advocate
>>a role for nuclear energy losing the battle for the minds of the Catherine
>>Warrens of the world?
>
>Because the John Gofmans and Marvin Resnikoffs of this world have a
>glitzier, more appealing message, and some credentials to back it up, and
>the APASE site is hardly the work of an intellectual giant. I believe a
>more important queston is: why have we (whoever "we" are) lost the John
>Gofmans of this world?
>
>Ruth Weiner
>ruth_weiner@msn.com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dukelow, James S Jr <jim.dukelow@pnl.gov>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
>Date: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:43 AM
>Subject: FW: Reaching APASE and people like them -- a reposting
>
>
>>
>>I am reposting my earlier message about difficulties in reaching APASE,
>because
>>it was truncated by the RADSAFE "From" bug, causing the loss of some of
the
>most
>>relevant information.
>>
>>In response to Jane Bragg's question, "Why hasn't Ms Warren studied any
>>science?":
>>
>>
>>
>>Ms. Warren's bio raised for me the question -- Why are those of us who
>advocate
>>a role for nuclear energy losing the battle for the minds of the Catherine
>>Warrens of the world?
>>
>>Best regards.
>>
>>Jim Dukelow
>>Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>>Richland, WA
>>jim.dukelow@pnl.gov
>>
>>These commenst are mine and have not been reviewed and/or approved by my
>>management or by the U.S. Department of Energy.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dukelow, James S Jr
>>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:24 PM
>>To: 'radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu'
>>Subject: Reaching APASE and people like them
>>
>>
>>An interesting thing happened to the comments that I sent to APASE
>regarding the
>>energy information on their "educational" web site.
>>
>>They bounced.
>>
>>After some investigation, it appears that the APASE web sites (roughly the
>same
>>material appears several different places on the web) are sailing like
some
>>ghost vessel through cyberspace, trailing a slick of toxic disinformation,
>with
>>noone on board capable of correcting the errors.
>>
>>All of the email addresses I found for APASE have bounced. The phone
>number
>>given on the APASE site has been busy all afternoon, so I can't tell
>whether it
>>is still APASE. All of the web pages carry 1995 or 1996 copyright notices
>or
>>indicate that they were last modified in that time frame.
>>
>>The web sites suggest that the primary driver for the energy information
is
>a
>>woman named Catherine Warren. A web search turned up some interesting
>>information.
>>
>>She is a graduate of Reed College, with a Master's in Journalism from
>Columbia
>>University. She has been living in Vancouver, BC for at least the last 5
>years
>>and working in area of new media. She has written 25 books and magazine
>series
>>on science and computing for children and adults and has produced 15
>websites.
>>Her clients and corporate partners include CTV, Northern Telecom, BC Tel,
>Sun
>>Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard, and Microsoft, book, magazine, and web
>>publishers, federal and provincial ministries, and universities and
>schools.
>>Much of her effort has been directed toward science education, with a
>particular
>>focus on science education for girls.
>>
>>During the years of (nee "From") 1996 to 1999, she was the Vancouver
>Aquarium's
>>Director of Education and Community Programs. One of her innovations was
>>OrcaFM, a 24/7 all-whale FM radio station. She and her web sites and
>>educational programs have received a number of awards. She is currently
>the
>>chief operating officer of Blue Zone Entertainment, Inc., a company
founded
>in
>>1988 by her and her husband, with 50 employees and 1999 sales of $1.3
>million
>>(Canadian?).
>>
>>She appears to be bright, well-educated, and entrepreneurial and it would
>appear
>>that her views on energy and the environment are being formed or
influenced
>by
>>the David Suzukis of the world.
>>
>>You can find additional information about Ms. Warren at the Blue Zone web
>site,
>><www.bluezone.net>.
>>
>>Reed College has a 250 kw Triga research reactor.
>>
>>Best regards.
>>
>>Jim Dukelow
>>Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
>>Richland, WA
>>jim.dukelow@pnl.gov
>>
>>These comments are mine and have not been reviewed and/or approved by my
>>management or by the U.S. Department of Energy.
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