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Re: HIGH-TECH SECURITY TOOLS GET A SECOND LOOK





Private:

Franz Schoenhofer

Habicherg. 31/7

A-1160 Vienna, AUSTRIA

Phone: -43 699 11681319

e-mail: franz.schoenhofer@chello.at



Office:

MR Dr. Franz Schoenhofer

Federal Ministry for Agriculture, Forestry, Environment and Water Management

Dep. I/8U, Radiation Protection

Radetzkystr. 2

A-1031 Vienna, AUSTRIA

phone: +43-1-71100-4458

fax: +43-1-7122331

e-mail: franz.schoenhofer@bmu.gv.at







-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: David_S_Hyder@RL.gov <David_S_Hyder@RL.gov>

An: franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>;

jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>;

radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Datum: Donnerstag, 27. September 2001 20:39

Betreff: RE: HIGH-TECH SECURITY TOOLS GET A SECOND LOOK





Franz,



It's quite possible that the image was infrared.  And I will admit that I

was seeing red when I sent it.  However, I was offended by your clear

anti-American bigotry that showed through this e-mail.

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I am neither anti-American, nor can I recognize any bigotry. What I

responded to originated from (not America but from) the United States of

America - which makes quite a difference. Any such messages from India,

Austria, France, Canada, Brazil, Australia or whatsoever on our big world

would be answered by me the same way. Therefore addressing in my response

"America" as the origin of these proposals is in my opinion absolutely

correct. I have until now not received any such proposals from any other

country.

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 Your statements, "Is

the US really going to use security considerations as a justification of

violation of human rights?" and "This was the most disgusting information I

can think of" made me angry.  A whole bunch of human rights were violated on

September 11th.



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We have our right wing party in Austria, which also tries to get their

opinions of anti-foreigners politics through by using the events of Sept

11th. Just today they proposed, that non-European refugees should be

expelled. I condemn such ideas and the obvious will to violate the Refugee

Convention. Do you really support the violation of human rights - reading

your comment this is obviously the case. Violation of human rights by whom

so ever, does not give anybody else the right to violate the human rights

himself. So, what is your anger directed to?

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It's all about risk.  If the people in charge of airport security determine

that a small dose of radiation is less risk than a hijacked jet, then

travelers will get scanned or they will not fly.



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Oh, no,. Now I am getting angry myself. Do not tell me, that airport

security will be able to prescribe whether x-ray search is to be performed

or not. Airport security is not legislation. If the American (US)

legislation on Radiation Protectíon is so, that even airport security can

determine on the "small dose of radiation is less risk than a hijacked jet",

then I would not be able to take the US legislation serious any more.



Please RADSAFErs, tell me that this is not the case, otherwise I will loose

my confidence ín any legislation from the USA.



Franz



















#It's their choice.  I

don't make the decisions.  But, I believe the risk to people from low dose

exposure as described, if it will stop events like those that happened

September 11th, is worth being considered.



Just my thoughts,



David Hyder, CHP

(509) 373-9652

David_S_Hyder@rl.gov

Hanford's Facility Evaluation Board





-----Original Message-----

From: Franz Schoenhofer [mailto:franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT]

Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:22 AM

To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); RadSafe

Subject: Re: HIGH-TECH SECURITY TOOLS GET A SECOND LOOK







Private:

Franz Schoenhofer

Habicherg. 31/7

A-1160 Vienna, AUSTRIA

Phone: -43 699 11681319

e-mail: franz.schoenhofer@chello.at



Office:

MR Dr. Franz Schoenhofer

Federal Ministry for Agriculture, Forestry, Environment and Water Management

Dep. I/8U, Radiation Protection

Radetzkystr. 2

A-1031 Vienna, AUSTRIA

phone: +43-1-71100-4458

fax: +43-1-7122331

e-mail: franz.schoenhofer@bmu.gv.at







-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS) <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>

An: RadSafe <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Datum: Mittwoch, 26. September 2001 21:04

Betreff: FW: HIGH-TECH SECURITY TOOLS GET A SECOND LOOK





Here we go again: the wish for "security" (whatever this is) "justifies" the

use of x-rays, additional doses to flight passengers, inmates, school

children etc. Is this really not "sold" under the name of hormesis? "High

Tech", thats the wonder word. On the other side we have those anti's, who

regard an atto-Curie per cubic light year of tritium as a deadly threat to

our civilisation, or an expectable amount of Sr-90 in baby teeth as the

confirmation of the deadly impact of nuclear reactors (TFP).



Is the US really going to use security considerations as a justification of

violation of human rights? We have the ALARA principle and at least in

Europe we have a legislation, which prohibits the deliberate use of ionizing

radiation on humans for other purposes than medical ones.



Not taking into considerations the very basic reasons for refusal of the use

of ionizing radiation for such cases - what are the doses delivered to the

inmates? Is this procedure really allowed in US regulations?



Other questions which arise for me: Are these inmates forced to subject to

x-rays, twice a day? Are they subject to pressure for that? Do they receive

benefits for consent?



This was the most disgusting information I can think of.



Please tell me, that it is a hoax. I find it hard to believe.



Franz











>HIGH-TECH SECURITY TOOLS GET A SECOND LOOK

>from The San Francisco Chronicle

>

>Security specialists are taking another look at technologies that seemed

>out of the question before last week's terrorist attack on the East Coast.

>

>Nobody expects any high-tech solution will erase America's new sense of

>insecurity. But there are some innovative approaches that could find a

>place, and particularly promising are recent advances in low-dose X-ray

>scanning.

>

>A commercial "backscatter X-ray" system capable of seeing what's under a

>person's clothing -- including plastic weapons or explosives -- was

>installed in 1997 as an experiment at the Montana State Prison, a

>1,300-inmate facility at Deer Lodge, Mont.

>

>Warden Michael Mahoney says the prison is now scanning about 300 inmates

>twice daily as they move back and forth between work areas and their

>cellblocks.

>

>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/09/17/MN201831.DTL&ty

p

>e=science

>

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