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RE: Crows
Jerry,
Did he check to see if there were any plaid crows? Biology is not black and
white unless you look for only black and white. I was taught that
biological response follow a sigmoid response curve. Still, while zero is
zero, the low level response are not zero, but are asymptotic to the axis.
-- John
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cohen [mailto:jjcohen@prodigy.net]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:39 PM
To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); tedrock@CPCUG.ORG; RadSafe
Subject: Re: Crows
Once upon a time a wizard hypothesized that white crows exist. To test his
hypothesis he gathered a million crows from all parts of the world and
carefully examined them to assess their color. All of the million crows were
black. He concluded that perhaps his sample size was too small; white crows
might actually exist and it was therefore prudent to maintain all the laws
in the kingdom that presumed existence of white crows.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS) <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>
To: <tedrock@CPCUG.ORG>; RadSafe <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Why effects of LDR differ from metabolism
> Ted,
> Are you saying that all of the studies that were done have favored your
> position? That seems like a bold statement, or maybe you have not checked
> all of the literature for the "black crow." I was taught that biological
> response is usually a spectrum of values, and in the regulatory arena, you
> protect for the sensitive person, not the average or those at one end of
the
> spectrum of responses.
>
> -- John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Rockwell [mailto:tedrock@cpcug.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 5:16 PM
> To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); RadSafe
> Subject: RE: Why effects of LDR differ from metabolism
>
>
> >I have read a large body of the literature and am skeptical of the
> results that you think are so important. Posting a number of selected
> articles and references while ignoring others that dispute the claims is
> biased reporting.
>
> John:
>
> You miss the point. It only takes one white crow to damage the argument
> that all crows are black. Only one. It is not "biased" to focus on that
> report. If you cannot disprove the one, then the counterargument is
> questionable. It doesn't matter whether the guy with the white crow is
> biased. If you can't shake the one, you look for others. If you find
> others, the counterargument is dead.
>
> In this case, we have hundreds of white crows. And in fact there is not
> even one black crow. Just a statement that you can't exclude the
possiblity
> that some black crows exist. There have been lots of reports about black
> crows, but no one has produced one. They just keep telling us that it is
> impossible to actually produce a black crow (1.e. a person unequivocally
> injured by LDR).
>
> You've either got to face that situation, John, or concede that your
opinion
> is not supported by the data.
>
> Ted Rockwell
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