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RE: Chromosome aberration study
Franz wrote:
>This may be of real interest to the group.
>
>
>> Dr. Elza Sakamoto-Hojo from Universidade de São Paulo in Brazil and
>colleagues compared chromosomal aberrations, sister chromatid
exchanges,
and
>micronuclei in lymphocytes from eight hospital workers chronically
exposed
>to ionizing radiation (accumulated absorbed doses ranging from 9.5 to
209.4
>mSv) with those in eight age-, sex-, and smoking habit-matched
individuals
>not exposed to ionizing radiation.
When I started to read I became at once suspicious: "Low-Level Exposure"
-
how is it defined? When I recognized it was on hospital workers I could
imagine that the term "Low-Level Exposure" in the context of this
article
would be quite different from what LNT pro's and con's discuss about.
Let me make it clear: I am far from being an expert on this topic, but I
miss in this posting some information. First of all the time span during
which the accumulated absorbed doses were received. Is it per year, per
month, per week or during five years? I believe that this is very
important.
Now, let us assume that it is per year. 9.5 mSv is in my perception not
low-level but if we assume a low background area it would be about four
times the usual natural background in addition to it. Such persons are
clearly radiation workers according to the limits in the European Union.
A
dose of 209.4 mSv accumulated during one year would be a very severe
criminal offence in the European Union, because in almost all countries
of
the EU the maximum permissible yearly dose to a radiation worker is 20
mSv,
which might be exceeded in one year up to 50 mSv, but has to be in any
case
below 100 mSv within five consecutive years. If the 209.4 mSv would be
accumulated during let's say 50 years of profession, then it might under
average conditions correspond to twice the background dose and not be of
concern.
So, these are my problems with such articles or their citation. Do you
have
any information about the yearly doses?
Franz
----------------
Franz,
I would think most people would consider these doses to be low level. I
think the authors said these were
cumulative exposures - which I assumed to be total life-to-date. And
even if it weren't, it is still in the
range generally called "low level" (although above limits). I was
shocked by the report for different
reasons. My questions are (and I'm no geneticist).....
- I thought chromosome aberration was undetectable below something like
25 rem - and that the only way to
detect it at that level was with a "pre-dose" measurement of the
abberation rate in that individual. I had
presumed that variability was so large in this range that differences on
the order of those described were
not statistically significant. This some new method that is
super-sensitive? I thought previous sensitivity
was sufficient enough to determine that there was no significant
increase at this dose.
- It's not clear how the data are "grouped". There's a significant
range in dose, but the result is not
dose-related - it's just a general outcome that says if you're "exposed"
you have this "average" increase.
Is the highest exposed individual showing any higher aberration rate
than the lowest? If not, what would
lead to the conclusion that the aberrations have anything to do with
radiation? This would support the idea
that genetically, 'any' dose is as bad for you as a large dose. One
mrem is all it takes to foul up your
chromosomes forever.
- Eight people? Come on. Why not 800? If this type of dosimetry is so
great, let's do it on a large number
of workers and see what we get. And speaking of that....
- Is this method known to be accurate with the precision necessary to
get the results stated. Is it really
"dosimetry"?
- "New rules" based on this? A little premature, don't you think?
--
Keith Welch
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