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RE: Background Radiation Information Sought



Jim,



I think Iowa is the best state to perform a radon epidemiology study.



You do Not want certain areas high and certain areas low. Maybe for an 

ecologic study, but not for a case control study.  What you want is a wide 

range of radon exposures so that you are able to get a dose response 

relationship.  If you look at the Iowa study, that is what they have - a 

very nice wide distribution of exposures.  The distribution is still log 

normal in Iowa, so there are many low measurements.



Les Crable





>From: "Jim Muckerheide" <jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu>

>Reply-To: "Jim Muckerheide" <jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu>

>To: "Jim Otton" <jkotton@usgs.gov>

>CC: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

>Subject: RE: Background Radiation Information Sought

>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:16:00 -0500

>

>Jim O.

>

>The residential concentration groups are "doses." Is the data set behind

>these groups available? It would be interesting to see radon,

>terrestrial, and cosmic summed by county. Does this really not exist

>anywhere?

>

>On the national map it's easy to see that Iowa is the worst state to try

>to find a radon dose-response. There is no low-dose region! Eliminates

>the meaningful data in Cohen and other more substantial analyses!? :-)

>

>Now Tennessee would be good! :-)  Virginia, but ocean/mountain

>confounders; Connecticut has the opposite - hi radon on the ocean side;

>Nebraska giant counties and population density problems? Alabama, but

>disparate? Who would do Louisianna - all counties low!?

>

>Regards, Jim

>============

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From:	Jim Otton

>Sent:	Mon 14-Jan-02 11:22 AM

>To:	Jim Muckerheide

>Cc:	radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>Subject:	RE: Background Radiation Information Sought

>

>Jim M,

>There is no radon dose information at the USGS site. The USGS role in

>radon

>studies focused on the geologic causes of variation in indoor radon

>levels

>and devloping means of estimating the geologic radon potential for the

>U.S.

>In the work performed by the USGS for the EPA in mapping U.S. radon

>potential, we focused on developing geologic estimates of the average

>indoor

>radon level of residences the U.S.  These geologic radon potential

>estimates

>were published by the USGS in a series of 11 Open-File reports in 1993

>and

>1995.  These 11 reports covered each of EPA's 10 regions plus an extra

>report for Guam and Puerto Rico.  EPA then used these geologic estimates

>to

>develop their "Map of Radon Zones"

>(http://www.epa.gov/iaq/radon/zonemap.html) in which each county

>received a

>low, moderate or high (yellow, orange, red) ranking.

>

>Jim Otton

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Jim Muckerheide [mailto:jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu]

>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:59 PM

>To: Jim Otton

>Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>Subject: RE: Background Radiation Information Sought

>

>

>Jim,

>

>Is there radon dose info on this "radon site?"  :-)

>

>Any way to add terrestrial to radon doses by location? plus cosmic?

>

>These sources don't address the original question, which would be of

>interest.

>

>Regards, Jim

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From:	Jim Otton

>Sent:	Fri 11-Jan-02 12:19 PM

>To:	BERNARD L COHEN; Dave Derenzo

>Cc:	radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>Subject:	RE: Background Radiation Information Sought

>

>Dave, Bernard, and all,

>The terrestrial gamma component to dose has been estimated for the U.S.

>by

>Joe Duval (USGS, Reston, VA).  A map showing that dose and related maps

>showing the apparent concentrations (in ppm or percent) of the U, Th,

>and K

>components of that dose can be found at

>http://sedwww.cr.usgs.gov:8080/radon/DDS-9.html or

>http://energy.cr.usgs.gov/radon/radonhome.html These maps are part of

>the

>USGS' radon webpage.  These maps are derived from the NURE aerorad

>dataset,

>the cosmic-source gamma component was eliminated (upward-looking

>crystals

>were used in the survey).

>

>Jim Otton

>U.S. Geological Survey

>Environmental Geology of Radionuclides

>

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]On Behalf Of BERNARD L COHEN

>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:55 AM

>To: Dave Derenzo

>Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>Subject: Re: Background Radiation Information Sought

>

>

>	My paper "Indoor radon maps of the United States" might be

>useful,

>since radon is the dominant contributor to doses from natural radiation,

>and it varies much more than does the gamma ray background radiation.

>

>On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Dave Derenzo wrote:

>

> > Dear Radsafers,

> >

> > In one of my training classes, I use a very old slide of a US map with

> > average background levels for each state.  The slide says the source

>of

>the

> > data was EPA.  This slide does not include the radon contribution to

>the

> > ede.  I would like to update this slide, but have had no luck in

>finding

> > more recent information.  Can anyone point me to a reference that has

>this

> > information on a state by state basis?  I have already tried NCRP 94,

>but

> > unless I missed something, this information is not included.  A search

>of

> > the EPA web site also was not productive.  Any help would be

>appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Dave Derenzo, RSO

> > University of Illinois at Chicago

> >

> >

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