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RE: Lung cancer mortality and Radon in Nepal!!!!
Dov,
I agree that no matter the cause, lung cancer is a very dreadful way to die
and once your diagnosed chances of 5 year survival are not very good.
There appears to be synergism between smoking and radon exposure. You can
not 100% identify a person who died from radon or from smoking. One wonders
about the additive effects of polonium exposure from cigarettes(polonium
also is indirectly from radon) and polonium exposure from radon directly.
One can not tell if it was smoking or radon that caused someone's death. I
see your point though, why worry about radon when you are already taking
part in a very self destructive behavior?
As I tell people who say, "should I be concerned about radon", I always ask
them if they smoke. If they say yes, then I say quit smoking and then we
can discuss radon.
Don Smith
>From: "Dov Brickner" <brickner@zahav.net.il>
>To: "Franz Schoenhofer" <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>, "Fritz A.
>Seiler" <faseiler@NMIA.COM>
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>Subject: RE: Lung cancer mortality and Radon in Nepal!!!!
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>I guess "funny" and "ridiculous" are NOt synonims. Young women suffering
>from severe lung disease is not funny at all! Respiratory disease
>attributed
>to radon after chronic smoke exposure IS ridiculous!!!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
> > [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]On Behalf Of Franz Schoenhofer
> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 1:50 AM
> > To: Fritz A. Seiler
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> > Subject: Lung cancer mortality and Radon in Nepal!!!!
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Fritz A. Seiler <faseiler@nmia.com>
> > An: Franz Schoenhofer <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>
> > Cc: hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net <hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net>; Rad
> > health <healthrad@HOTMAIL.COM>; jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu
> > <jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu>; maury@WEBTEXAS.COM <maury@WEBTEXAS.COM>;
> > radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
> > Datum: Samstag, 19. Jänner 2002 23:22
> > Betreff: Re: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality from
> > othercancers
> >
> >
> > >Dear Franz, All,
> > >
> > >I am afraid that it is neither funny nor ridiculous. I remember a study
> > made in Nepal, in a place where most houses do not have smoke-stacks
> > >or smoke holes. As a consequence, most of the women have severe
> > respiratory
> > problems and a life expectancy of less than 30 years. Sorry, but I
>cannot
> > >find the reference.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Fritz,
> >
> > Your comment is even more ridiculous than the original one. Do
> > not bother to
> > find the reference of this "Nepal study". I would not read it. I have
>not
> > been to Nepal but from whatever is available in the non-scientific
> > literature it seems that people live there a quite different life than
>in
> > New York or any other major city. I do not doubt that some
> > "scientists", who
> > have since long wanted to hike in the Nepalese mountains received a
>grant
> > to - actually, to what? Oh, yes. Life expectancy versus smoke stack.
>They
> > investigated two families and found a positive correlation. And it was
> > radon, which was liberated from wood and yak-excrements by
> > burning it and it
> > caused the respiratory problems and the early death of these
> > women? If this
> > is not ridiculous, what else is ridiculous?
> >
> > Where is the context to radiation protection?
> >
> > Franz
> >
> >
> >
> >
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