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Re: Securing the Energy Future of the US - IEER URL
Dear Ruth,
At least you politely told me to "take a hike", unlike another Ruth on this
list. ;-)
I agree with you that coal burners are a problem, I don't agree that nukes are
the answer. I agree with many of your comments below, such as saving the rain
forests, eating local food, cutting out eating meat, etc.
I respect where you are coming from and that you care about the future of the
planet.
Norm
Ruth Sponsler wrote:
> Thanks for some excellent comments that relate to
> 'sustainability.' One of the major reasons that I am
> in favor of nuclear energy is that I see it in the
> 'big picture' as more environmentally benign than
> fossil fuels.
>
> I get pretty disappointed when individuals who call
> themselves 'environmentalists' get sidetracked from
> the _real_ issues such as land and natural habitat
> conservation into pushing 'issues' that wind up being
> harmful to the environment by encouraging _more_
> fossil fuel dependence and the associated emissions,
> acid deposition etc.
>
> I do agree that sustainable development implies
> locally grown foods, many of them from vegetable
> rather than animal sources, and not export of
> 'McDonalds' throughout the world. Clearing of land
> for 'ganado' (beef cattle) is a big cause of
> deforestation in the Amazon.
>
> So, Norm, come on over to my side of environmentalism
> ;-) ;-). Unfortunately, although I support the
> habitat conservation work of environmental
> organizations such as the Sierra Club, I have refused
> to join any except for The Nature Conservancy, because
> most of them take 'politically correct' (popular among
> their 'in crowd') anti-nuclear positions that I
> believe are ultimately *harmful* for the environment
> because they *indirectly promote* fossil fuel use as a
> 'default.' These organizations are always pushing
> wind and solar, which just simply cannot supply the
> amount of energy desired by Americans and many other
> people in the world.
>
> My friendly recommendation to Norm: take a hike to the
> peaks of the Alleghenies or Blue Ridge Mountains where
> you can see for yourself how the stress caused by the
> effects of acid rain [coal...] on trees has caused
> them to be highly susceptible to an otherwise harmless
> little insect, and has caused tree death on Mt.
> Mitchell, Roan Mountain etc. and also threatens
> delicate 'bald' island ecosystems. Then, transfer
> your career to doing something that will actually
> *help* the environment, such as working with
> foundations that purchase land for conservation
> purposes.
>
> There may be some folks on this list who disagree with
> my post because it is mostly 'pro-environmentalist.'
> The important part is that you're actively working to
> help reduce coal emissions using nuclear, which is a
> lot more than some of these 'activists' can say for
> themselves. :-)
>
> Ruth Sponsler
>
> Forest stress caused by acid deposition on ridges:
>
> http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20010827foresthealth2p2.asp
>
> http://cnie.org/NLE/CRSreports/Natural/nrgen-15.cfm
>
> --- Patricia Milligan <PXM@NRC.GOV> wrote:
> > This report assumes that consumption more or less
> > stays the same. I am not sure how these great plans
> > can even be possible given the population growth in
> > the world... and according to scientists at Cornell
> > University "Animal protein production requires more
> > than eight times as much fossil-fuel energy than
> > production of plant protein while yielding animal
> > protein that is only 1.4 times more nutritious for
> > humans than the comparable amount of plant protein,"
> > so if we are worried about energy use, then we need
> > to worry about the increasing population and the
> > increasing fascination with McDonalds and beef
> > consumption around the world... so from strictly
> > the casual observer, if you are increasing the
> > population and you are increasing the food supply
> > from animal protein and you are increasing the
> > lifestyles of the growing populations, how can these
> > simplistic energy plans ever stand a chance of
> > working?? they are naive at best and don't address
> > the true problems... in a world of !
> > finite resources... you can only support a finite
> > population...
> >
> > Patricia Milligan, RPh, CHP
> > US NRC
> > 301-415-2223
> > >>> "Mercado, Don" <don.mercado@LMCO.COM> 03/28/02
> > 01:19PM >>>
> > I read this and it is typical of a Democratic
> > agenda. More rules,
> > regulations and HUGE government oversight, taking
> > away from the free market
> > and free will. Tax and spend.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Norman Cohen [SMTP:ncohen12@comcast.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:23 PM
> > > To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu; Norman Cohen
> > > Subject: Securing the Energy Future of the US -
> > IEER URL
> > >
> > >
> > > HI all,
> > > For those of you who have asked me how I proposed
> > to phase out nukes and
> > > replace them with alternatives, here's some
> > thoughts from IEER:
> > >
> > > > Securing the Energy Future of the United States
> > > > Science for Democratic Action, volume 10 number
> > 2, February 2002
> > > >
> > http://www.ieer.org/sdafiles/vol_10/10-2/index.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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