Re: nuke navy - HMS Tireless

[maury <maury@WEBTEXAS.COM>]

Dear Michael, Jim, et al.

I also was skeptical of the comments of John Shannon posted by N. Cohen. As has so often been the case, there was little substance and a lot of distortion. I experienced no difficulty in finding press articles - especially in the UK and in Spain. Those countries were directly involved - the US was not and the

incident itself was of little moment. The sub had a problem a couple years ago; problem was detected; crew responded correctly; ship was repaired; ship returned to sea duty. However, look at the following list of phrases extracted from the Shannon account:



1. probable nuclear reactor meltdown on May 19

2. latter alarming accident by the U.S. press.

3. is potentially disastrous

4.  the core can result in a meltdown

5. associated release of enormous quantities of radioactivity.

6. neither U.S. or foreign nuclear subs are equipped with this vital safety system,

7. Nothing could be worse than

8. meager information has been released

9. One source reported that the reactor had been about to seize up

10. reported that the reactor was "at the very point of failure"

11. It is quite possible that the

12. This could cause fuel elements to melt

13. This may leave the  reactor in the precarious position

14. may have used incredibly bad judgment in an ill fated attempt

15. it may be that the Tireless must be kept at the dock

16. British navy is now deprived of its entire strike force

17. British Naval engineers are said to be astonished

18. there are even more ominous overtones

19. It is quite probable that

20. submarines are potential victims

21. cover-up has always been the name of the game

22. populated region without the two most vital safety systems known

23. HMS Tireless, this disaster well illustrates why



We see meltdown, alarming, disaster, and ominous overtones - ummmm yes, gotta' watch those ominous overtones. At the other extreme we see: probable that, potential victims, may be that, may have used, said to be astonished, may leave ... in precarious position, and so on. This is not a definitive report, but yet

implies that the apocalypse is nearly upon us because of this broken submarine. This is as bad as the farmer who took Chicken Little's warnings to heart while anxiously scanning the sky, but completely overlooking the real wonder of encountering a talking chicken! The Shannon's of the world are preoccupied with

apprehensively scanning the sky and missing the modern marvels of science and engineering taking place every day!

Cheers,

Maury Siskel         maury@webtexas.com

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Kent, Michael D." wrote:



>  By Nuclear Regulatory Commission mandate, U.S. commercial reactors employ Emergency Core Cooling

> > Systems (ECCS) to protect against LOCAs. But because of space limitations

> > aboard submarines, neither U.S. or foreign nuclear subs are equipped with

> > this vital safety system, nor are the two nuclear submarine prototypes at

> > the Kesselring Site Operation.

>

> Dear Norm,

>

> I know Mr. John P. Shannon is speaking out of his a_ _.  I do not know what type of grievance Mr. Shannon has with the Navy, but it only leads to discredit your stance further when you publish his misinformation on a list server with people who know the TRUTH (I know that pesky truth thing coming out again).

>

> The cores at the Knolls Atomic Power Sight in New York, do indeed have systems designed specifically to handle a LOCA.  I know, because I trained there.

>

> The S5W design does have systems in place to handle a LOCA also.  Unlike many civilian reactors, they have methods to isolate the core from the leaking section.  And if that fails, they have this thing that the submarine operates in, called

> "THE OCEAN", I am more than sure there is enough water in "THE OCEAN" to keep the core covered.  And no it is not by melting through the bottom of the submarine, it can be pumped in.

>

> As a footnote, the Navy also has personnel on standby incase anything like this was to happen, so they could be flown in to assist, anywhere in the world on a moments notice.

> Sleep tight.

> Michael D. Kent  RRPT/ss



************************************************************************

You are currently subscribed to the Radsafe mailing list. To unsubscribe,

send an e-mail to Majordomo@list.vanderbilt.edu  Put the text "unsubscribe

radsafe" (no quote marks) in the body of the e-mail, with no subject line.

You can view the Radsafe archives at http://www.vanderbilt.edu/radsafe/