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Re: Tooth Fairy Project - NY Times - some responses



and in France, and most of the rest of Western Europe, infant mortality is much less than in the US.  France is a good example because it has so many reactors and is a country about twice the size of Colorado.  Surely if low level radiation were this harmful we would see differing statistics in France. Likewise for the incidences of most cancers.   In Sacramento, Mangano made the same claim.  Only problem was, that when Rancho Seco had been shut down for a two year period in the early 80s, infant mortality went up.  and when asked about that, Mangano stated that since those results didn't agree with the other plants, he didn't consider them.  Thats sound science???????  In Colorado, if you compare infant mortality around Ft. St. Vrain, you discover that, gee, it did go down after Ft. St. Vrain was shut down, but if you look at Boulder Colorado, during the same period, infant mortality decreased even more significantly...and Boulder sits pretty darn close to Rocky Flats.    Thi!

s is just more continued drivel from these folks.   As far as anecdotal "evidence" of cancer.....according to the American Cancer Society, two out of three men and one of three women will be diagnosed with cancer at some point in their life... The ACS didn't say...two of three men and one of three women around nuclear power plants... In fact, the ACS, on their web site dispels the notion that cancer clusters occur around nuclear power plants with any greater frequency than anywhere else in the country.  But I suppose that ACS is all part of the cover-up/conspiracy.   These are my thoughts only and do not reflect the positions held by my employer. 

   P. Milligan, CHP RPh

   USNRC 

   301-415-2223

            







>>> Norman Cohen <ncohen12@comcast.net> 05/01/02 08:11PM >>>

Hi Radsafers,



   I thought that Mangano was very careful to claim nothing more than a request for

additional studies. My personal experience with Joe Mangano is that he is more

circumspect and cautious in his statements than Alec Baldwin, or Sternglass or

Gould.



  Mangano has done two statistical studies for Salem County (NJ), and both show that

when the reactors were shut down for repair from 1995-1998, that infant mortality,

low birthwieght in infants, and immune system connected diseases all went down. When

the reactors went back on line, these catagories went up.



  To Julie who asked about anecdotal evidence about cancer: at least in NJ, around

Oyster Creek and Salem, people do indeed talk about cancers in their friends and

family. In fact, the woman who was the local Salem Tooth Fairy watched her husband

and then her two dogs die of lymphoma.



  Now none of this proves that Salem/Hope Creek causes cancer, and we at Unplug

Salem don't say that. What we do say is that continual doses of  low level radiation

over periods of time affect the immune system of those most at risk:

fetuses, infants, and the elderly. A weakened immune system allows other

environmental toxins (and Salem County has plenty of them) to have a stronger

effect. (synergism). All we, and the folks around Oyster Creek, and Joe Mangano are

saying is that these statistics and apparant effects should be studied by an

independent group, not the TFP, not the NIH,

but an independent 3rd party.



 To David Neil:  I indeed would feel better about the study if it were published in

a 'major' peer reviewed journal.



To: Stewart Farber - to my knowledge, no politician has 'thrown money' to the TFP.

As far as I know, they've raised

   their funding privately and thru donations. An attempt in NJ to get funding was

vetoed by then Governor Whitman.



To: Ruth Weiner - apologies in advance for all my typos and lack of capitalization.

;-)



peace

norm



William V Lipton wrote:



> Unlike some Radsafers, my comments are quite printable, and I hope that they are

> widely printed.

>

> Many thanx for bringing this article to my attention.  When I was growing up, in

> Long Branch, NJ, the NY Times was probably one of the many advantages of living

> in the NYC area.  This is a well written and well balanced article, although

> those who don't read beyond the headline may get the wrong impression.

>

> I especially encourage you to look at the work of John Boice, who is quoted,

> here.  He is a classmate of mine, is arguably the best contemporary

> epidemiologist, and has done a lot of work on this issue.



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