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Re: for the record



Radsafers



Mike has my support in this. Disagreements on scientific issues are the way

we improve or understanding, but personal comments shouldn't be part of

RADSAFE.

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John R Johnson, PhD

idias@interchange.ubc.ca



----- Original Message -----

From: "Michael G. Stabin" <michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu>

To: "Gibbons, Gregory J" <GJGibbon@MAIL.BHI-ERC.COM>;

<radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:43 AM

Subject: for the record





>

> > but I'm noticing that there are several folks on this list who seem to

> think

> > smearing every other rad health professional is the name of the

> game--hence

> > the reduction in participants

> > --can anyone tell me what has happened (privately, if you don't mind)?

> > I would think that respect and dignity among

> > professional peers would be an expectation that isn't unreasonable), we

> > really need to shape up and act the part, folks.

>

> I absolutely agree that the quality and tenor of the list is the

> responsibility of the participants, with some control by the moderator. We

> all have a responsibility to act respectfully towards each other and

> maintain a high level of dialogue. When this does not occur, I have the

> option of commenting or imposing disciplinary measures. I choose not to

> pounce on every negative comment that is made and frequently throw people

> off the list, as I think that would stifle conversation. I permit a heated

> comment here or there to go by (I have said some heated things myself at

> times), and intervene if a thread continues in a strongly negative tone or

> an off-topic rabbit trail. If you don't like the points of view of some

> participants, there are delete buttons and email filtering mechanisms. It

is

> *not mandatory* that you read and appreciate every word put out on this

> *free* list. Read what you want, ignore the rest. I do. Or get the digest

> and just read what interests you.

>

> Regarding the recent exchange, I think Ruth's comment was not meant to be

> rude to Kurt, I thought she was just saying "this is not a huge safety

> concern, why should we wring our hands about it?" (correct me if I'm

wrong,

> Ruth). The reply, accusing her of pomposity, was more of the kind that

would

> be considered by some for discipline, but which I decided to let go for

the

> moment.

>

> > quite amused to watch us "radiation professionals" bicker like little

> > children in a sandbox---splitting hairs over really stupid arguments

that

> in

> > and of themselves often have no significant relevance to radiation

> > protection whatsoever---

>

> The threads about epidemiology and validity of LNT are the ones most often

> criticized, but they are of course quite relevant to the current and

> possible future practice of health physics, and their minutae are

certainly

> fair game for discussion. If this bores you, just *don't read it*. I'm not

> going to tolerate people "smearing" each other or anyone else on the list.

> Personal attacks will get my attention, and continuation after a private

> warning WILL be cause for discipline. Hair splitting will be tolerated and

> is even encouraged - who am I to say which particular piece of data may or

> may not be crucial to advances in our understanding?

>

> Mike

>

>

> Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

> Assistant Professor of Radiology and Radiological Sciences

> Department of Radiology and Radiological Sciences

> Vanderbilt University

> 1161 21st Avenue South

> Nashville, TN 37232-2675

> Phone (615) 343-0068

> Fax   (615) 322-3764

> e-mail     michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu

> internet   www.doseinfo-radar.com

>

>

>

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