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RE: Dirty bombs(more on the LNT)



John:
 
That argument doesn't hold in the case of the Shipyard Workers Study.  The head of the Technical Info Panel was Art Upton.  (Cameron was also on the panel.)  That panel met periodically to review all the data and procedures and assure that the results would not be subject to any confounders that could be avoided.  He concluded the study was well done.
 
The senior author of the NCRP report was--surprise!--the same Art Upton.  So if you take the first Upton as gospel, you have to find the second Upton as either devious or fraudulent.
 
Or vice-versa.  Take your choice.
 
Ted Rockwell
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]On Behalf Of Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS)
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:55 PM
To: 'Rad Safety Institute'; howard long; RuthWeiner@AOL.COM; sjd@swcp.com; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: RE: Dirty bombs(more on the LNT)

Howard,
I find it interesting that the authors of the Hiroshima-Nagasaki studies and the shipyard workers did not consider the differences in expected and observed cancers to be statistically significant.  (Even John Cameron will admit that his interpretations of the data are not those of the authors.)  Of course, these are people who actually performed the study and maybe they were not as biased as others who are look for good news about low dose radiation effects.
 
Have a good weekend.

-- John
John P. Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  jenday1@msn.com

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Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 7:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Dirty bombs(more on the LNT)

That's an interesting reply: thanks for sending it along............................Ed
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Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Dirty bombs(more on the LNT)

Ed,
My most effective rebuttle (very limited) is to accuse an anti-nuc of depriving people of "invisible sunshine". Most are aware of rickets and can understand the benefit of mortality reduction by raising background ionizing radiation from coast to mountain level, almost equivalent to curing all cancers!
 
Then when they say, "I doubt that!", I quote Hiroshima-Nagasaki cancer reduction (in survivors,up to 10 rad) and Cameron's data of mortality 0.76 for > 0.5 rad extra exposure of shipyard workers, in "Is Radiation An Essential Trace Energy".
I don't have those references on this computer, but they are in this chat box archive.
 
Happy New Year
 
Howard Long