Re: [Know_Nukes] Air pollution may alter genes

["High Plains Drifter" <magna1@jps.net>]

Come on, mutations are subtly occurring in every generation.  Mutations are

natural and in most cases beneficial, its an adaptive response to an

environmental force.  We, homo sapiens, are a result of mutation.  As the

sun's radiant energy increases, some million years before it collapses,

there will be adaptive mutations here on earth to allow survival under the

higher radiation levels.  These will take place over a long period of time

and during that period there will be many detrimental mutations that will

not survive.  Eventually the evolutionary process will win out via mutation

to a viable species.  (wow, I better lay off the coffee so late at

night.....)



H. Dean Chaney, CHP

URS Corp. Sacramento, CA

(916) 679-2086



"In science there is only physics; everything else is stamp collecting."

                                      --Ernest Rutherford



----- Original Message -----

From: "Steven Dapra" <sjd@swcp.com>

To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:39 PM

Subject: Re: [Know_Nukes] Air pollution may alter genes





> Jan. 9

>

> On Jan 7, I wrote, concerning genetic alterations as a result of air

> pollution:  "If these findings are legitimate why aren't there already

> mutant children all over the place around steel mills?"

>

> On Jan. 9, John Jacobus replied:  "I think that it should be considered

> that the gene mutations found are obviously not determental to the gull,

> mice, or humans.  If it was, the effects should have been reported if

> observed.  Just because a gene mutation occurs should not lead to the

> assumption that it will lead to extra limbs, increased cancers etc.  If I

> remember correctly, studies around Chernobyl found mutations in voles.

> Yet, the animal population flourished."

>

> Thank you, John, for making this salient point.  My fallback position

> would be, are there any studies showing increased rates of mutations in

> children who were raised near steel mills?  This is more of a rhetorical

> question, although I would guess that the answer would be 'no'.  If

studies

> had been done showing increased mutations I am certain David Suzuki and

his

> foundation and like-minded parties would have ballyhooed the studies all

> over the place.

>

> I sent the Suzuki Foundation an e-mail asking where the mutation study had

> been published, but so far have not received a reply.

>

> I just visited the ENN website where the mutation article was published.

> According to a posting from an anonymous participant on the ENN discussion

> forum pursuant to the article, Dr. Suziki never provides references or

> citations.  Since he is hiding behind "anonymous," I can't contact him.

> Two or three other participants have also requested a citation.

>

> Steven Dapra

> sjd@swcp.com

>

>

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