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RE: respiratory tract dose
I am surprised that the question as to the responsibility of the certifying
body (i.e., the NRC) has not come into the discussion. Who provides
assurance that the license application makes any sense in the first place? A
CHP can be just as incompetent as anyone else and I would not trust anyone
merely boasting degree credentials.
Some comments do hint of elitism. So unless there is a legal requirement for
the CHP designation for writing the application, may I humbly suggest that
we drop the chest thumping and get down to the business of helping this
person? There are many physicists (not to mention other scientists,
engineers, or mathematicians) that could make fast (and perhaps better) work
of the problem proposed without having a CHP designation. Let's keep the
hubris in check!
Grant
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Brautigam [mailto:brautt@myapc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 1:45 PM
To: creed@humboldt.edu; don.mercado@lmco.com
Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: RE: respiratory tract dose
Don,
I don't disagree with you one bit... however, as anyone who has followed
RadSafe for any time will tell you, there are a few participants that are,
shall we say "corrosive"... and we all pretty much know who they are. Kevin,
please do not take the ranting of a few as an indicator of the list
membership as a whole. I have found most of the members willing to help and
advise. As always, there are a few bad apples in every crowd.
Todd
Todd Brautigam
(207) 882-4506
"I was told to expect the
unexpected, but the
unexpected has exceeded
my expectations."
>>> "Mercado, Don" <don.mercado@lmco.com> 05/14/03 11:38AM >>>
Unbelievable!!!
You all (some of you) are a piece of work! Kevin is a good, good friend of
mine, and a competent, consummate professional. He smart enough to knows
when he needs help and is not ashamed to ask for it. He has my absolute
respect. I've worked side by side with him here at Lockheed (he used to work
here) for years, and on this particular problem. It was *me* who suggested
that he take it to Radsafe (he'd never heard of it) bec he was in a time
crunch. Phone calls and faxes between us weren't making it and I *USED* to
have a lot of respect for what goes on here. I also didn't have the NCRP
documents he needed. If he gets them, I'll keep helping him. He wasn't
asking you to do the work for him, just supply the formulas and references
to him and he'd do the work! Are you so unsure of your own skills and
knowledge that you can't even do that????
I am TOTALLY embarrassed and ashamed by y'all's responses. I expected much
more of you (apparently too much.) It will be a cold dark day before I
recommend this board again. Something the Dixie Chicks said about the
President applies here about now...
Kevin, buddy, I am truly sorry for the abuse you've gotten. I had no idea
this would happen. I apologize for recommending this board.
Sheesh!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William V Lipton [SMTP:liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:56 AM
> To: Kevin Creed
> Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu; Luke George
> Subject: Re: respiratory tract dose
>
> At the risk of seeming more a "heel" than a "kind sole" [sic], it seems
> that you
> should be hiring a qualified consultant for this, and in support of all
> those RSO
> responsibilities that are beyond your qualifications.
>
> If you are a member of the Health Physics Society, I point out that the
> HPS code of
> ethics includes the statement, "Each member shall be a judge of his/her
> competence and
> will not undertake any assignment beyond his/her abilities." I assume
> that the AIHA
> has a similar code of ethics.
>
> If I were faced with an IH issue, I would consult the CIH whom we have on
> staff. I
> would caution any "kind sole" who is considering responding to this, that
> it's one
> thing having a general discussion or steering a qualified person to an
> overlooked
> reference. It's quite another to be performing calculations for a
> licensing document
> that the NRC will be using to determine whether this facility and its
> personnel can
> safely handle the requested radioactive materials.
>
> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> Curies forever.
>
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
>
> Kevin Creed wrote:
>
> > Help, I'm new to Radsafe and an IH. I am also the RSO and must work
> out a
> > dose estimation for a license amendment. The hypothetical scenario is
> > inhalation of 3.75 microcuries of Scandium 46 (1120.5 KeV) adsorbed onto
> > airborne smoke particles. I have checked out Cember's Intro to Health
> > Physics (1st ed.) and read Chapter 11, Internal Rad' Protection. The
> book
> > refers to ICRP's two compartment lung model for a similar problem but
> does
> > not supply the equation(s). I have put in interlibrary loan requests
> for
> > the specific Health Physics issues which address this but I don't know
> if I
> > will receive them in time.
> > Would one of you kind soles please provide me with the necessary
> equations
> > and any constants which I may need? I would like to work out the
> problem
> > myself to further my rad' knowledge. My e-mail
> > is: creed@humboldt.edu, fax (707) 826-5703, phone (707) 826-3356.
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Kevin Creed
> > R. Kevin Creed
> > Director/RSO
> > Environmental Health & Safety
> > Humboldt State University
> >
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