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Re: NRC PROPOSES $6,000 FINE AGAINST ST. JOSEPH MERCY HOSPITAL INMICHIGAN FOR OVEREXPOSURE TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC



 how much control over the patient and family is required before the NRC determines the control is adequate?
 
Considering International Recommendation as in the IAEA Basic Safety Standards, Safety Series 115, 1996, the
GUIDANCE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY FOR DISCHARGE FROM HOSPITAL (page 284)
TABLE III-VI. GUIDANCE LEVEL FOR MAXIMUM ACTIVITY FOR
PATIENTS IN THERAPY ON DISCHARGE FROM HOSPITAL
Iodine-131 1100 MBq -  In some countries a level of 400 MBq
is used as an example of good practice.
 
About Control (page 58)
 
CONTROL OF VISITORS
III.5. Registrants and licensees, in co-operation with employers when appropriate,
shall:
(a) ensure that visitors be accompanied in any controlled area by a person
knowledgeable about the protection and safety measures for that area;
(b) provide adequate information and instruction to visitors before they enter a
controlled area so as to ensure appropriate protection of the visitors and of
other individuals who could be affected by their actions; and
(c) ensure that adequate control over entry of visitors to a supervised area be maintained
and that appropriate signs be posted in such areas.
 
LESSON TO BE LEARNED BY LICENSEE:
Minimize misunderstanding, and as result mismanagement, in case of doubt, ask to Regulatory Authority to clarify.
Example of a possible misunderstanding - What does  (when appropriate) means
 
Jose Julio Rozental
joseroze@netvision.net.il
Israel

 

 

 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: NRC PROPOSES $6,000 FINE AGAINST ST. JOSEPH MERCY HOSPITAL IN MICHIGAN FOR OVEREXPOSURE TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC

I am not a lawyer, but I surmise patients have the right to terminate their medical treatment and go home at any time unless they pose imminent danger to the public.  If a patient goes home, the situation is not monitored.  Where is the consistency in mitigating the radiation risk when the patient is hospitalized versus being at home?  This appears to be a regulatory problem, not a health risk problem.  The NRC consultant stated the radiation health risk to family members was insignificant.
 
The questions still remains, how much control over the patient and family is required before the NRC determines the control is adequate?  Would the NRC have a similar conclusion if an RSO completed the procedures listed in the NRC letter to St. Joseph Mercy Hospital and a noncompliant and informed family member exceeded the radiation dose limit?
 
It is obvious the RSO could have done things to lessen the opportunity for the NRC to find fault, but even if he did, would that have been enough?
 
Steve Knapp, Ph.D.
 

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From: John Johnson [mailto:idias@interchange.ubc.ca]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 3:01 PM
To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: Re: NRC PROPOSES $6,000 FINE AGAINST ST. JOSEPH MERCY HOSPITAL IN MICHIGAN FOR OVEREXPOSURE TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC

Radsafers
 
I think you all should join me in thanking John for this.
 
Hopefully it (the subject) will now decay away:-).
 
John
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John R Johnson, PhD
idias@interchange.ubc.ca
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: NRC PROPOSES $6,000 FINE AGAINST ST. JOSEPH MERCY HOSPITAL IN MICHIGAN FOR OVEREXPOSURE TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC

 
With regard to exposure rate values, these are in the report:0
B.   10 CFR 20.1301(a)(2) requires that each licensee conduct operations so that the dose in any unrestricted area from external sources, with exceptions not applicable here, does not exceed 2 millirem in any one hour.

Contrary to the above, the licensee conducted operations so that the dose in unrestricted areas exceeded 2 millirem in any one hour. Specifically, licensee operations on July 1, 2002, resulted in a dose of 10 millirem in one hour in an emergency exit stairway, and a dose of 17millirem in one hour outside the ground floor window of a patient's room. Licensee operations continued through July 7, 2002, when the resultant doses were 4 millirem in one hour and 8 millirem in one hour, respectively.

It should be noted that these values are outside of the patents room.  I assume next to the bed the dose rates would be significantly higher. 

Also, NCRP 37 provides recommendations.  The NRC grants a license under which the  licensee agrees to operate.  You cannot pick the regulations you like to follow.


Carol Marcus <csmarcus@ucla.edu> wrote:

. . .

So, where does 3 to 15 rem come from? Nowhere credible.  As I see it, the member of the family elected to get a radiation dose that is judged safe for radiation workers, in order to be with a dying relative.  Seems reasonable to me.

It may be reasonable to point out that 10 CFR Part 20 includes the last sentence of 20.1001:  "However, nothing in this part shall be construed as limiting actions that may be necessary to protect health and safety."  I would sincerely argue that the mental health of the member of the family comes under this clause, and that the standards need not apply.  The care and peace of mind of the dying patient should be considered as well.  While I would go to great lengths to prevent a member of the family from receiving a dose that I know to be harmful, I don't see any reason to become hysterical about a dose that is a! bout what a radiation worker may receive in a year, or significantly less.  In NCRP no. 37, it is recommended that family members over 45 not receive more than 5 rads from the patient.  I don't know how old the family member in question was, but clearly there are standards that would support much higher radiation doses than the NRC seems prepared to permit in extreme circumstances.





-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird@yahoo.com


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