Re: Cardio disease citation--as promised, was Gofman

["Richard L. Hess" <lists@richardhess.com>]

Steven,



Thanks for clarifying. I understand now where you were coming from and it 

seems fair, although I had a sense that Lou (NN) was trying to put together 

pieces in a puzzle that hadn't been put together that way previously. 

Thanks, also, for recognizing that possibility.



It's a complex issue and the statistical nature of the determination -- as 

opposed to demonstrable cause and effect in a laboratory setting -- is what 

makes this so difficult. There are no simple answers to any of this.



Cheers,



Richard



At 09:12 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, Steven Dapra wrote:

>June 8

>

>         Richard Hess wrote, "I think some people calling for citations of 

> papers

>are a bit unfair."  Since I have been calling for citations, I'll weigh in

>on this.

>

>         In his first posting (May 30) Mr. Ricciuti wrote (about John 

> Gofman), "And

>just WHO are We to be taking pot shots at a career spanning five or six

>decades? Show me those references to his discredit--if you please."

>

>         Reference . . . citation . . . whatever one calls it, it is the same

>thing, and this began with Mr. Ricciuti asking for references.

>

>         In the same e-mail he wrote, "Niagara Falls, New York, USA--was 

> the free

>world's largest Uranium metal production center for the entire Manhattan

>A-bomb Project and beyond.  How many of you HPs knew that one? And yes, I

>have the citation."  At the end of his first posting he wrote, "Dr. Gofman

>links long term low level exposures to heart disease."

>

>         Mr. Ricciuti seemed eager to assure his readers that he had 

> citations,

>and all I have asked is that he continue in the same vein.  Richard also

>wrote, "Every research effort has to start with a seminal paper, but it has

>to be thoroughly researched and documented."  I whole-heartedly agree, but

>I construed what Mr. Ricciuti wrote as meaning that Gofman had already

>written the paper and that it had been published.  After all, if Gofman

>hadn't published this, how could Mr. Ricciuti have written that Gofman had

>made this link?  I'm not asking for a citation to a paper that hasn't been

>written . . .

>

>Steven Dapra

>sjd@swcp.com

>

>

>

>

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