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Re: Hanford Site cleanup standards
- To: William V Lipton <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>
- Subject: Re: Hanford Site cleanup standards
- From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>
- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:17:20 -0700 (PDT)
- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:23:39 -0600
- Cc: Ted de Castro <tdc@XRAYTED.COM>, Jerry Cohen <jjcohen@PRODIGY.NET>, "Conklin, Al" <Al.Conklin@DOH.WA.GOV>, "'Dukelow, James S Jr'" <jim.dukelow@PNL.GOV>, BLHamrick@AOL.COM, RuthWeiner@AOL.COM, radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
- In-Reply-To: <3F4D0B01.47E023FC@dteenergy.com>
- Reply-To: John Jacobus <crispy_bird@YAHOO.COM>
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I think what you say goes to my point. It is not the
risk value, per se, but how much we are willing (or
forced) to spend to avoid that risk. There are
statistical risks of dying in a car, which I believe
is much higher that getting cancer from 25 mrem. Yet
people take that risk of driving in a car. Going back
to the driving analogy, would society be willing to
drive a 5 mph to reduce the death rate to nil?
In our society, regulations are enforced on the level
of risk, without any consideration about costs. Until
the public recognizes the true costs, we are spinning
our wheels arguing about the LNTH.
--- William V Lipton <liptonw@dteenergy.com> wrote:
> Although LNTH is not, in itself, a regulation, it is
> the basis for our
> "risk based" cleanup standards.
>
> I'm not sure what is meant by having this issue
> "resolved." Keep in
> mind that the regulations do not claim that LNTH is
> a fact, only a
> useful precaution for planning purposes. I do not
> see enough evidence
> to upset this approach in the near future. I do not
> believe that,
> regardless of the outcome of the Cohen-Pushkin et.
> al. debate, that the
> regulations would be changed solely on the basis of
> epidemiological,
> especially ecological studies. We will need to
> understand a lot more
> about the mechanisms for radiation injury and cancer
> induction/promotion
> to really determine the validity of LNTH.
>
> In the meantime, the best approach is to remember
> that the regulations
> can take into account economic and social factors.
> I don't see the EPA
> holding out for unreasonable standards, especially
> if the taxpayers,
> rather than a deep pocket corporation, will be
> paying the bill. I
> believe one posting noted that green fielding
> Hanford would take the
> entire national budget for several years.
>
> BTW - You're all qualified to criticize my postings.
> However, I'm
> getting tired of the rather shopworn national
> security argument; the
> same one Nixon used during Watergate. While it's
> true that national
> security concerns may require relaxing environmental
> standards in some
> cases, this should be done in a rational way, by
> carefully considering
> risk versus benefit. National security does not
> justify giving the
> government, or anyone else, a blank check to
> pollute.
>
> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> Curies forever.
>
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
> . . .
=====
-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird@yahoo.com
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