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RE: MDA vs. Critical level for DOE Free Release surveys
- To: "'William V Lipton'" <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>, "Redmond, Randy (RXQ)" <redmondrr@Y12.doe.gov>
- Subject: RE: MDA vs. Critical level for DOE Free Release surveys
- From: "Redmond, Randy (RXQ)" <redmondrr@Y12.doe.gov>
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:05:43 -0500
- Cc: "'Goff, Tom'" <Tom.Goff@wipp.ws>, "''RadSafe Send Message'" <radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu>,"Oliver, Bobby (OLV)" <oliverrw@Y12.doe.gov>, "Wical, Scott Andrew (S3W)" <wicalsa@Y12.doe.gov>
- Reply-To: "Redmond, Randy (RXQ)" <redmondrr@Y12.doe.gov>
- Sender: owner-radsafe@list.Vanderbilt.Edu
Bill, I believe you repeated what I said.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William V Lipton [SMTP:liptonw@dteenergy.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:52 AM
> To: Redmond, Randy (RXQ)
> Cc: 'Goff, Tom'; ''RadSafe Send Message'; Oliver, Bobby (OLV); Wical,
> Scott Andrew (S3W)
> Subject: Re: MDA vs. Critical level for DOE Free Release surveys
>
> 1. NRC licensees, especially power reactor licensees are not allowed to
> free
> release any licensed material. See HPPOS 72 - I pasted in a copy, below.
> TN is
> known for its easygoing free release standards. It's no coincidence that
> so
> many radwaste, "green is clean" processors are located, there.
>
> 2. When you refer to, "The MDA value is what the instrument will detect
> with XX
> % confidence (most people use 95%)..." keep in mind that it is necessary
> to
> specify confidence levels, separately, for Type 1 (false positive) and
> Type 2
> (false negative) errors. You seem to imply that the 95% level applies to
> both.
> Often, the levels are the same, but this is not necessarily true,
> especially
> under MARSSIM.
>
> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> Curies forever.
>
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
>
> Guide on "How Hard You Have to Look" as Part of Radioactive
> Contamination C ontrol Program
>
> HPPOS-072 PDR-9111210170
>
> Title: Guide on "How Hard You Have to Look" as Part of
> Radioactive Contamination Control Program
>
> See the letter from R. C. DeYoung to E. D. Swartz
> (Commonwealth Edison Company) dated May 18, 1982. The
> intent of IE Circular No. 81-07 (IEC-81-07) was to give
> guidance on "how hard you have to look" for radioactivity
> when the use of portable survey equipment is necessary as
> part of a radioactive materials control program. The
> detection limits in IE Circular No. 81-07 (IEC-81-07) are
> not release limits. The health physics position was
> written in the context of 10 CFR 20.201, 20.301, and
> 20.302, but it also applies to the "new" 10 CFR Part 20,
> Sections 20.1501, 20.2001, and 20.2002. HPPOS-071 and
> HPPOS-73 contain related topics.
>
> The intent of IEC-81-07 (see HPPOS-071) was to provide
> guidance on acceptable limits of detection of portable
> survey equipment; thus, defining "how hard you have to
> look" for radioactivity when the use of portable survey
> equipment is necessitated as part of a radioactive
> materials control program. Low background, fixed
> laboratory counting equipment can readily detect levels of
> radioactivity several orders of magnitude less than the
> detection levels discussed in the circular. However, the
> use of laboratory counting equipment is not always
> practical for all situations and portable survey equipment
> may need to be employed.
>
> The circular did not establish criteria for releasing
> radioactivity contaminated materials from restricted areas
> for unrestricted use. The regulations applicable to
> nuclear power reactor licensees do not provide for release
> of materials for unrestricted use that are known to be
> radioactively contaminated at any level. Authorization for
> disposal of specific radioactively contaminated materials
> may be requested as specified in 10 CFR 20.302 [or 10 CFR
> 20.2002]. The Commission recognizes the need for "de
> minimis" classification of wastes and has initiated work to
> define "de minimis" levels on a specific waste basis. This
> work is continuing. [Note: The statement concerning "de
> minimis" classification of wastes is related to the below
> regulatory concern (BRC) policy, which has now been
> withdrawn.]
>
> With regards to your request for concurrence with release
> criteria in your "Radiation Protection Standards," we
> cannot concur since the regulations do not contain release
> criteria provisions as described above. The method
> available to you for obtaining authorized release limits is
> to submit to the Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation (NRR)
> a request for license amendment that addresses specific
> release limits. Although we have sent a copy of your
> letter to NRR for information, the excerpt you provided
> from your "Radiation Protection Standards" lacks specifics
> which would support a request for specific release limits
> for radioactively contaminated materials.
>
> If you desire a specific authorization for disposal or a
> license amendment for specific release limits, please
> direct your request to the Office of Nuclear Reactor
> Regulation.
>
> Regulatory references: 10 CFR 20.201, 10 CFR 20.301, 10
> CFR 20.302, 10 CFR 20.1501, 10 CFR 20.2001, 10 CFR 20.2002
>
> Subject codes: 7.6, 9.7
>
> Applicability: Reactors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Redmond, Randy (RXQ)" wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > I refer to statistics as "sadistics" and I'm certainly not an expert at
> any
> > this. I'll tell you what we do (DOE facility, NRC agreement state).
> >
> > 1. We use the DOE 5400.5 surface contamination values (uranium 5000
> dpm/100
> > cm2 total and 1000 dpm/100 cm2 removable); at times we also use the
> 15000
> > dpm/100 cm2 maximum depending on the value of the object. Items are
> subject
> > to at least one decon to get the levels down - the ALARA statement in
> > 5400.5. The state accepts these values for free release. Of course if
> its
> > metal, then we have to abide by the Richardson memo - no metal released
> if
> > its been in a contaminated area. The 5400.5 values are consistent with
> Reg
> > Guide 1.86 values (even though some folks claim the 1.86 values are not
> for
> > free release).
> >
> > 2. I'm not familiar with any reference or regulatory standard on
> whether to
> > use MDA or Lc; however, the EM-30 Performance Objective issued by DOE in
> the
> > early 90's basically said to pick one and justify it (for volumetric
> > release). In my opinion (sadistically speaking) Lc is the correct value
> if
> > your objective is not to release any radioactive material (at whatever
> > confidence you choose). Using Lc is impossible in the field due to
> varying
> > backgrounds, each instrument has a different efficiency, each tech uses
> a
> > different distance to the surface .. . .).
> >
> > 3. See number 2. The MDA value is what the instrument will detect with
> XX
> > % confidence (most people use 95%). If you have an MDA of 100 dpm and a
> > sample is 100 dpm, then you'll have a distribution around your MDA -
> count
> > the sample with exactly 100 dpm in it twenty times and statistically 50%
> of
> > the time the value will be less than 100 dpm and 50% of the time the
> number
> > will be more than 100 dpm 50% of the time (sometimes you'll get exactly
> 100
> > dpm; sometimes, about 5% of the time using 95% confidence you'll get a
> value
> > less than the Lc). Anyway, using the MDA to state that nothing is there
> is
> > not correct, that's where Lc comes in. Check some of Brodsky's work and
> > NUREG 1400 contains some good info on MDAs and Lc.
> >
> > Like I said, don't base anything on what I wrote - "sadistics."
> >
> > Randy Redmond (32458)
> > Radiological Control Organization
> > BWXT Y-12 L.L.C.
> > Oak Ridge, TN
> > 865-574-5640
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Goff, Tom [SMTP:Tom.Goff@wipp.ws]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:27 PM
> > > To: ''RadSafe Send Message'
> > > Subject: MDA vs. Critical level for DOE Free Release surveys
> > >
> > > > Title:
> > > >
> > > > We are discussing using a critical level for free release
> surveys.
> > > > Please provide answers to the following:
> > > >
> > > > Are you using critical value or MDA for free release surveys of
> > > > materials from your site?
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a reference/regulatory standard on whether to
> use
> > > > MDA or critical value for free release surveys?
> > > >
> > > > Given that an MDA results in a 95% confidence in detecting
> > > > contamination at the MDA value, what is the corresponding confidence
> if
> > > > using the critical level?
> > > >
> > > > I would welcome any other comments or thoughts on this.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Goff
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Let me know if you're ok with this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom Goff
> > > > WIPP ALARA Coordinator
> > > > WIPP Integrated Waste Operations
> > > > (505) 234-8861
> > > > (fax) 234-8963
> > > > e-mail Tom.Goff@WIPP.ws
> > > > page (505) 234-8850 (pager 479)
> > > > P.O. Box 2078
> > > > Carlsbad, NM 88221
> > > > Radiological Engineering: Anticipating Problems.....providing
> > > > solutions!!!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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