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Re: Tooth Fairy (Project) Comes to Hackensack University Medical Center
Baloney.
The TFP isn't research - it's a political stunt. And no, there is no reason
we must treat politically motivated farces as scientific research - why must
we give them credibility they don't deserve? If "it's not about dose, it's
about trust", then here is the perfect opportunity - the public trusts
professional individuals and organizations to separate fact from nonsense,
because WE supposedly have the knowledge to do that. Any health physicist
who can't see about a half-dozen reasons why the TFP is a farce shouldn't be
in the profession.
Norm has been offered a number explanations (and over a long period of time,
if anyone cares to look back at the RadSafe archives) of more
straightforward methods of determining whether operating nuclear power
plants affect the health of individuals living near them. Any one of the
explanations is sufficient to debunk the TFP as nonsense. He has chosen to
ignore all of them, preferring the "mysterious" link between deadly,
invisible radiation and helpless infants (hint: why do you think they chose
BABY teeth, folks?).
Vincent King
Grand Junction, CO
----- Original Message -----
From: "William V Lipton" <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>
To: "Steven Dapra" <sjd@swcp.com>
Cc: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Tooth Fairy (Project) Comes to Hackensack University Medical
Center
> It's often worthwhile to look for the unexpected. Nuclear power plants
are required
> to have a Radiological Environmental Monitoring Program, even when
effluent monitor
> results show that there's no possibility of finding anything.
>
> Virtually all research is undertaken in an attempt to prove a hypothesis.
>
> The opinions expressed ares strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> Curies forever.
>
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
>
>
> Steven Dapra wrote:
>
> > Nov. 15
> >
> > Bill Lipton wrote:
> >
> > "While I don't necessarily agree with either the purpose or
goals of the
> > "Tooth Fairy Project," I am most disappointed in the responses I've seen
on
> > Radsafe. They seem to consist primarily of attacks on the motivations
and
> > competence of those involved, rather than any semi-professional
evaluation
> > of the work or the issues. It seems that anyone who disagrees with 'the
> > party line' is attacked as biased or incompetent.
> >
> > "This knee jerk response does a great disservice to all of us.
> >
> > "At this point, the TSP seems to be in a data collecting stage.
Some
> > recommendations regarding methodology may be in order, but, regardless
of
> > the motivations of the project participants, they deserve the right to
> > present their views."
> >
> > My Comments:
> >
> > The motivation of the Tooth Fairy Project (TFP) is to gather
"evidence" to
> > support its agenda of shutting down power reactors. If that is not the
> > TPF's motivation (Bill), what is its motivation?
> >
> > Stewart Farber very aptly pointed out the following:
> >
> > " . . . the routine emissions of Sr-90 from any nuclear power
plant are
> > insufficient to even maintain the existing environmental inventory of
Sr-90
> > in the terrestrial or aquatic environment from earlier bomb test fallout
in
> > the 1960s, never mind increase exposure to any person living in the
> > vicinity. Each year the megacuries of Sr-90 which remain in the
> > environment from open air testing of nuclear weapons by the US and the
> > Soviets which ended in 1963, decay by an amount that far exceeds the sum
of
> > all emissions from US nuclear power plants in the present or anytime in
the
> > past.
> >
> > " . . . [edit] . . . Releases from today's nuclear plant
operations CANNOT
> > KEEP THE CURRENT SR-90 environmental inventory constant never mind
increase
> > overall exposure from Sr-90.
> >
> > "The basic premise of the Tooth Fairy project that a few
micro-Ci or
> > milli-Ci of Sr-90 release per year from any one nuclear power plant is
> > increasing Sr-90 exposure and cancer risk to children in the general
> > environment near a facility today, given the much, much greater [but
still
> > trivial] amount of Sr-90 in the environment and diet from residual Sr-90
in
> > the environment from prior bomb test fallout, is simply absurd,
> > unscientific, and a fraud intended to promote an anti-nuclear agenda.
> >
> > Assuming that all this is true, and I suspect that it is, it
seems to me
> > that RADSAFEers who are doing so would be remiss in <not> attacking the
> > competence of the TFP.
> >
> > Bank robbers, car thieves, and people who support the
legalization of
> > drugs also "deserve the right to present their views," but those of us
who
> > know better should be prompt to point out in no uncertain terms that
such
> > views are nonsense.
> >
> > I also endorse Jerry Cohen's Nov. 14 suggestion to Bill Lipton:
" . . .
> > perhaps you might offer a technically feasible explanation of how Sr-90
in
> > children's teeth might conceivably be indicative of releases from
nuclear
> > power plants, particularly in light of Sr-90 levels in global fallout.
> > Absent such a reasonable explanation, why would it matter what methods
are
> > used to assess Sr-90 levels in children's teeth?"
> >
> > Steven Dapra
> > sjd@swcp.com
> >
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