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Re: nuclear weapons
Sandy, boy are your right on this one......... not much as
changed since then....... To answer your question on the neutron
bomb, since I got a kick back on your e-mail. The W70s and W79s
were disassembled starting in 91 and I think all over by 97.
Gerry
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:54:59 -0500, "Sandra" wrote:
>
> After working in Minute Man III missiles while in the air force,
> I know that
> those warheads can be shipped in a small crate all together or
> even smaller
> containers by alone. After the wall went down in Berlin the
> Soviet Union
> lost track of some of their nucs and we have not always known
> where all
> ours are at any given time. It would only take a small hand
full
> of trained
> people to over take a military convoy on the way to missile silo
> or site.
> The bases are relatively small and their security police are not
> trained
> well enough to withstand a real attempt at these sites or
convoys.
>
> I could tell you stories that would leave you dumbfounded at
> their stupidity
> and their laziness.
>
> The missiles that were deployed on the flatbed in Europe were
> even smaller
> and could easily be transported and were easily transported from
> place to
> place. Security, from my point of view, only drew more
attention
> to what
> was going on, so leaving security behind was a better idea. The
> training
> that normal military recieve in the air force is a couple days,
> perhaps for
> an hour or two on those days, at the range. Some don't even
> qualify with a
> weapon, and are just signed off on their cards. I remember the
> first time I
> handled a .38 in the air force I shot the ceiling of the range.
> They were
> really upset by the paper work they would have to do about the
> hole in the
> ceiling. But this did not keep me from running the missile
field
> as a
> technician who did the electronics and targeting in the silos
and
> the
> capsule work. I was simply signed off.. had passed their
> criteria. What
> kind of force could I have used with a handgun alone with a few
> bullets? no
> clip on this weapon. It was really a false sense of security.
> If a small
> group of "terrorists" had over taken our convey they would have
> gotten what
> ever they wanted. We were no match for high-tech automatic
> weapons.
> Someone could have placed a device during a normal traffic stop
> on the
> vehicle and blow it up on the way to the field. Security? It
> was not
> really all that good in the 1980's. I have no idea what they
are
> doing
> today, but I can imagine it cannot be much better.
>
> I hate to say it, but military security is really lax and
usually
> they don't
> choose the most intelligent people for this duty. Few are high
> quality,
> thinkers.
>
> I also know that the USA has consistently broke treaties that
> have detailed
> the placement of nuclear warheads. So even if we sign a treaty
> detailing
> what is expected we never comply in completion, we do what ever
> we want and
> when we get caught we make up lies or pretend it never happened
> or imprison
> the whistleblower.
>
> Our nucs are not that secure. Perhaps we ought to worry about
> what we are
> doing as well. Somehow we never consider the breechs in our
> security and
> how easy it could be for even an active military person to take
> home a
> complete can of warheads with the help of a few friends. Not
> all active
> duty military personnel are loyal to the oath. Nor are all
> active duty
> military people who they say they are.
>
> --Sandy
>
> just my experience and my opinion
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jaro" <jaro-10kbq@sympatico.ca>
> To: "Frank Helk" <frank.helk@nis-hanau.de>; "Gerry Blackwood"
> <gpblackwood@justice.com>
> Cc: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Al-Qaida may have nuclear weapons
>
>
> > Frank Helk wrote:
> >
> > The damage done by a nuclear weapon is - even while one of the
> most
> horrible
> > threats - at most limited. A very big boom, much damage, and
> contamination
> > of a more or less area.
> > <snip>
> >
> > Good point.
> > Particularly in the case of the so-called suitcase bombs, with
> fractional
> to
> > one-kiloton explosive yield, exploded at ground level.
> > This is easily exceeded by a ship loaded with multi-kilotons
of
> ANFO
> > chemical explosive, and requires far less technical know-how.
> > Even a fleet of fuel trucks loaded with ANFO could probably
> cause more
> > devastation when distributed throughout a city, than a single
> small
> nuclear
> > bomb exploded at ground level.
> > Something to consider, when developing homeland defense
> strategies &
> > detection techniques, IMHO.
> >
> > Jaro
> > http://www.cns-snc.ca/branches/quebec/quebec.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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