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Re: Al-Qaida may have nuclear weapons



I think that unless our own government can prove that

its intelligence agencies provide reliable

information, there will be many in this country who

feel that the Bush Administration has failed the

public.  It is not about war and peace, it is about

honesty and truth.  This government has come up short

too many times.



--- Howard Long <hflong@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Gerry and other Doves,

> "Foreign friends", like many populations without the

> access their

> governments  have  to secret  info (like that

> leading to Lybia's abandonment

> of nuclear weapons), cannot be expected to

> appreciate the potential for

> disaster. We all celebrate Lybia's decision and can

> hope for the same from

> Iran, Syria and N Korea - now that there is credible

> incentive from Bush

> action on Afghanistan, Iraq and Homeland security.

> 

> Radsafers are much less likely to be mitigating

> disaster, now that the world

> is safer from fanatic access to WMD and programs

> actually found by UN, Kay,

> etc.

> 

> Howard Long

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Gerry Blackwood" <gpblackwood@justice.com>

> To: <hflong@pacbell.net>

> Cc: <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>;

> <cfrey@ssi-group.net>;

> <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 5:48 AM

> Subject: Re: Al-Qaida may have nuclear weapons

> 

> 

> Howard, I do not even know why i am going to reply

> to this and I

> have to agree with our foreign friends here. This

> article was

> written for the sake of taking up space and to spin

> stories for

> US Public consumption. It's not factual at all. Now

> to your

> points....Anthrax yes is nasty, but Saddam was and

> is not the

> only one with it, matter of fact we are the biggest

> manufacture

> of this agent as weaponized. The VX issue? Our

> stockpiles of

> chemical and nerve agents here in the States make

> what was dumped

> in the Euphrates look silly and we have leaching

> problems here as

> well. Yes Saddam proved that he would use weapons

> like these.

> While we sat by and not only watched but made sure

> he had more

> weapon systems. By the way, the same can be said for

> our use of

> the Bomb on Japan. So if we are going to use WMDs to

> save the

> lives of our troops, well we set the standard didn't

> we? Plainly

> WE screwed up here the order of battle was taken out

> of order for

> a political theology. That has not helped us on TWOT

> or with our

> foreign allies which we do need and as Iraq has

> proven. Are we

> any safer than we were? NO not at all.

> 

> Nuclear? North Korea, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia,

> and a few

> others who have them, want them or are researching

> them need to

> be dealt with while we cannot do away with Treaties

> such as the

> NPT so we can build Star Wars and low yeild nuclears

> weapons. The

> same goes for the smuggling of fissile materials and

> technology.

> Again we set the standard.

> 

> We need to be doing much better here and we are not.

> Sorry for

> going off subject....... Gerry

> 

> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:26:05 -0800, "Howard Long"

> wrote:

> Franz and other Wishful Thinkers,

> 

> What do think happened to the 10,000 liters of

> anthrax spores (enough to

> wipe out most of humanity) confirmed by UN? A

> spiderhole for it would not

> even need the ventilation Saddam had.  In a vast

> desert, it might never be

> found, but I will worry until its found.

> 

> Was all of the VX dumped in the Euphrates (where

> some was found during the

> advance to Baghdad)? Was part of it, also, buried or

> conveyed to Al Quida to

> accomplish mutual objectives?

> 

> More pertinent to this list, did Saddam again manage

> to rebuild a rapid

> nuclear program, with scientists again afraid of

> asassination and family

> torture? The one in '94 was revealed only by his

> son-in- law (after UN

> declared him clean).

> 

> Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on

> me!

> 

> Howard Long

> 

> 

>

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