Re: Al-Qaida may have nuclear weapons

["Howard Long" <hflong@pacbell.net>]

Gerry and other Doves,

"Foreign friends", like many populations without the access their

governments  have  to secret  info (like that leading to Lybia's abandonment

of nuclear weapons), cannot be expected to appreciate the potential for

disaster. We all celebrate Lybia's decision and can hope for the same from

Iran, Syria and N Korea - now that there is credible incentive from Bush

action on Afghanistan, Iraq and Homeland security.



Radsafers are much less likely to be mitigating disaster, now that the world

is safer from fanatic access to WMD and programs actually found by UN, Kay,

etc.



Howard Long



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Gerry Blackwood" <gpblackwood@justice.com>

To: <hflong@pacbell.net>

Cc: <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>; <cfrey@ssi-group.net>;

<radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 5:48 AM

Subject: Re: Al-Qaida may have nuclear weapons





Howard, I do not even know why i am going to reply to this and I

have to agree with our foreign friends here. This article was

written for the sake of taking up space and to spin stories for

US Public consumption. It's not factual at all. Now to your

points....Anthrax yes is nasty, but Saddam was and is not the

only one with it, matter of fact we are the biggest manufacture

of this agent as weaponized. The VX issue? Our stockpiles of

chemical and nerve agents here in the States make what was dumped

in the Euphrates look silly and we have leaching problems here as

well. Yes Saddam proved that he would use weapons like these.

While we sat by and not only watched but made sure he had more

weapon systems. By the way, the same can be said for our use of

the Bomb on Japan. So if we are going to use WMDs to save the

lives of our troops, well we set the standard didn't we? Plainly

WE screwed up here the order of battle was taken out of order for

a political theology. That has not helped us on TWOT or with our

foreign allies which we do need and as Iraq has proven. Are we

any safer than we were? NO not at all.



Nuclear? North Korea, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and a few

others who have them, want them or are researching them need to

be dealt with while we cannot do away with Treaties such as the

NPT so we can build Star Wars and low yeild nuclears weapons. The

same goes for the smuggling of fissile materials and technology.

Again we set the standard.



We need to be doing much better here and we are not. Sorry for

going off subject....... Gerry



On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:26:05 -0800, "Howard Long" wrote:

Franz and other Wishful Thinkers,



What do think happened to the 10,000 liters of anthrax spores (enough to

wipe out most of humanity) confirmed by UN? A spiderhole for it would not

even need the ventilation Saddam had.  In a vast desert, it might never be

found, but I will worry until its found.



Was all of the VX dumped in the Euphrates (where some was found during the

advance to Baghdad)? Was part of it, also, buried or conveyed to Al Quida to

accomplish mutual objectives?



More pertinent to this list, did Saddam again manage to rebuild a rapid

nuclear program, with scientists again afraid of asassination and family

torture? The one in '94 was revealed only by his son-in- law (after UN

declared him clean).



Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on

me!



Howard Long





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