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RE: Different colors of dose



Donna:



I think that perhaps the Nuclear Medicine tech needs a dose refresher in-service. If you check the Radar dosimetry site at

http://www.doseinfo-radar.com/RADARDoseRiskCalc.html

you will get the following statement to plug into a human research disclosure form for the 27 mCi bone scan:



"This research study involves exposure to radiation from a Tc-99m Medronate also known as Tc-99m Methyenediphosponate (MDP), . This radiation exposure is not necessary for your medical care and is for research purposes only. Using the standard way of describing radiation dose, from participating in this study, you will receive a total of 6293.7 mrad to your Bone Surfaces, 4795.2 mrad to your Urinary Bladder Wall and 919.079 mrad to your Red Marrow. Although each organ will receive a different dose, the amount of radiation exposure that you will receive from these procedures is equivalent to a whole body exposure of 693 days (1.898 years) of exposure to natural background radiation. This use involves minimal risk and is necessary to obtain the research information desired."



The calculated total effective dose was 569 mrem (5.69 mSv).



As was stated in a previous posting, the risks of radiation harm are far outweighed by the benefits but I do not think that it is proper to provide such a gross understatement of the dose to the patient. your posting is prompting me to check out what our techs are telling their patients.



I hope you have been following the postings concerning outpatient I-131 therapy treatments. With a 225 mCi load I am sure you are aware of how significant a source you will be. That dosage is just below our upper limit for outpatient treatment without specific patient uptake/excretion measurements and would only be given to patients that we are reasonable sure would abide with isolation restrictions for the first two days after administration (to give a 0.125 occupancy factor in the NRC NUREG-1556 App U equation).



Best of luck with your therapy.



Hobie Shackford, RSO

Roger Williams Hospital

Providence, RI  

401-456-2471

hshackford@rwmc.org





-----Original Message-----

From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

[mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]On Behalf Of Donna O'Kelly

Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:26 PM

To: Radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: Different colors of dose









I have been a member of this list for almost two years now and never felt 

the need to post until now.  In the last six months, I have been diagnosed 

with two primary cancers, kidney and thyroid.  Luckily - both were caught 

early, so I expect to be around for a long while.



My issue originates from my going to get a bone scan (27 mCi Tc-99m-MDP) 

and the rad tech telling me I'm not getting any more dose than if I stayed 

out in the sun for an hour.   How do you even begin to counter that?  (A 

Landauer OSL on my hip over 3 days gave a dose of 67 mrem).  Secondly, is 

the fact that this 27 mCi is completely "safe" for me for medical purposes, 

but if I wee to encounter this same isotope and activity at my facility, it 

would be regulated and *I* would become a radiation area and visitors 

wouldn't be allowed near it.  But since I got it from a medical facility, 

it was okay.  I dunno is the 140 keV gamma from safer if it is given to me 

in a medical facility???  I think not.  There's so much hypocrisy to the 

whole thing in my mind.



What about from CTs of the head, neck, abdomen and pelvis?  Again, no harm 

since it's a medical issue - but I encounter it at work...and it's just a 

horrible thing.



I won't even go into the 225 mCi I-131 I'm getting ready to ingest..



I think this is a discrepancy that should be pointed out and addressed with 

folks across the board.  I've certainly incorporated this information into 

the tours that I give at my facility.



Thoughts anyone?



Donna J. O'Kelly, Ph.D

Laboratory Manager

Reactor Health Physicist

Nuclear Engineering Teaching Laboratory

The University of Texas at Austin

J.J. Pickle Research Campus

10100 Burnet Road, Building 159

Austin, TX  78758



office:  (512) 232-4174

fax:  (512) 471-4589



http://www.me.utexas.edu/~netl  



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