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RE: "The Bell Tolls for LNT"

Good summary, and I wish I had said it as clearly as

you did.

--- "Stabin, Michael"

<michael.g.stabin@Vanderbilt.Edu> wrote:


> Franz wrote:

> >Radiation Protection is in fact politics and not

> science.


> This is not how I normally express it. If we recall

> the history of our regulatory process, for many

> decades we were entirely guided by the same

> scientific and advisory bodies that we have now,

> namely the ICRP and NCRP, in limiting doses to

> workers and the public. When the time came to

> produce a uniform set of national regulations

> (because those wacky folks out in California decided

> to make up their own state regs), these regulations

> were and still are guided by scientific input where

> possible. Lauri Taylor truly lamented the idea that

> we would move away from a purely scientific basis to

> one in which political concerns would come into

> play, but it was inevitable, so the best scientific

> minds (namely the ICRP) guided the process. 


> At that time, and still in this time, we are unsure

> of what is going on at low doses and dose rates, so

> we made a *policy* decision, which is pretty

> reasonable. As John says, this is not the way to do

> good science (send any article you wish to a good

> journal in which you made measurements between

> certain limits and then extrapolated beyond the

> bounds of the data to infer values in other regions,

> and it should be rejected), but it is necessary for

> policymaking. Of course as regulations and

> regulatory agencies have increased, there are more

> political issues in the mix, and some arguably bad,

> bad science at times, but overall things are

> basically working. I agree that ridiculous amounts

> of resources are sometimes expended chasing

> miniscule doses does not make for sound overall US

> public policy on health and safety.


> I have stated before and will state again that I

> disagree strongly with the assertions by some of

> political bias among members of the ICRP and other

> bodies. I am also sickened by the abuse of the LNT

> by political opportunists, projecting thousands of

> cancer deaths across big populations from many

> people receiving low doses, scaring people for no

> good reason, including recent examples in the

> medical literature. 


> We are all trying honestly to sort out what is true

> at low levels, between evidence for hormesis,

> thresholds, gene damage and repair, bystander

> effects and cellular signaling, etc. While we sort

> things out, the established policy is the one to

> rely upon. "The bell tolls" was not a very good

> critical assessment of the situation, in my opinion,

> just essentially an op-ed piece by someone who has

> staked out an opinion before all of the scientific

> data are in. 



> Mike


> Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

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