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Re: Pilot Radiation Benefit/Harm



Can you cite the article?  I may want to look at it.



--- howard long <hflong@pacbell.net> wrote:



> Journal of American Board of Family Practice

> published an LNT article about theoretic harm to

> airline personnel (whose union he represented) a few

> years ago. The editor refused to publish a brief

> hormesis rebuttle with references, signed by myself,

> Myron Pollycove and Lewis Helgeson, my friend,

> health physicist and principle of Helgeson Nuclear

> Serices  (manufacturer of radiation dose counters

> used at many nuclear power facilities). Lew

> introduced me to this often helpful chat box.

>  

> Howard Long MD MPH

> 

> L.GOV> wrote:

> OK, so the dose to his medicine was 50x less. That's

> more than 10x. I said 

> that the dose from the x-ray machine was more than

> an order of magnitude 

> less than what it'd receive during the flight. I'm

> not sure what your 

> problem is with what I said. I even pointed out what

> an order of magnitude 

> meant.

> 

> The individual did not say he was a flight crew

> member (even pilots fly 

> more than 20 times/year). I'm not aware of anyone

> who has flown for a 365 

> days continuously.

> 

> The number of publications that discuss peoples'

> concerns about any subject 

> are indeed numerable (not innumerous), although I

> doubt it's worth the 

> effort. The number of reputable (i.e. peer-reviewed)

> publications that 

> discuss actual harm to women employed by airlines is

> quite numerable, and 

> small. The number of reputable (i.e. peer-reviewed)

> publications that 

> discuss the lack of actual harm to people ( I hate

> excluding any person 

> based on biology) employed by airlines is quite

> numerable, and larger.

> 

> And even after looking at the posting again, I'm

> unsure why you're going 

> off on hormesis.

> 

> There are references included in my posting that

> enable people to use 

> peer-reviewed tools and publications to evaluate

> their doses during flights.

> 

> Just trying to he helpful : )

> 

> (Obviously my own opinions)

> Brian Rees

> 

> 

> 

> At 01:03 PM 11/13/2004, you wrote:

> >I beg to differ:

> >

> >I once MEASURED the radiation dose during an

> intercontinental flight:

> >It was *** 50 times *** HIGHER than the background

> radiation at sea level.

> >

> >For a continuous flight of 365 days, the total

> radiation exceeds the 

> >OCCUPATIONAL

> >limit of 5 Rads. This certainly is a point of

> concern to women employed by 

> >the airlines, as can be verified by innumerous

> publications.

> >

> >Besides, I do not subscribe to the Hormesis theory

> that will soon find 

> >(paid?) followers here and elsewhere, that

> advocates low (how much is 

> >LOW?) X-Ray radiation is actually beneficial.

> >

> >Reuven Zach

> >Medical Physicist

> >

>

>===================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Rees" 

> 

> >To: "M Nivas" ; 

> >Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:40 AM

> >Subject: Re: Airport screening and medicine

> >

> >

> >>Tom,

> >>

> >>I have measured the dose through a typical x-ray

> inspection machine at 

> >>140-200 uR. (0.14 -0.20 mR) This is more than an

> order of magnitude (10x) 

> >>less than the dose received during your flight.

> You can look up 

> >>radiation doses received during a flight on a

> number of sites, Reference 

> >>provided below. There are more references in the

> archives, use subject 

> >>line below.

> >>

> >>Brian Rees

> >>

> >>Subject: RE: In-flight radiation doses

> >>From: "Edwards, Richard W" 

> >>To: 

> >>

> >>In the midst of all of this was a reference to

> on-line dose calculators. 

> >>There's CARI, which is on a U.S. FAA web site 

>

>>(http://www.cami.jccbi.gov/AAM-600/Radiation/600radio.html)

> and EPCARD, 

> >>which is on the German National Research Center

> for Environment and 

> >>Health web site

> (http://www.gsf.de/epcard/eng_start.php).

> >>

> >> >From: Bill Prestwich

> [mailto:prestwic@mcmaster.ca]

> >> >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:53 AM

> >> >To: ?????? ??

> >> ...snip...

> >> >with no subject line. You can view the Radsafe

> archives at

> >> >http://www.vanderbilt.edu/radsafe/

> >>

> >>

> >>At 07:56 AM 11/13/2004, you wrote:

> >>>Greetings all:

> >>>

> >>>I fly a lot across the U.S. (20 times this year)

> and I

> >>>take several medications. Some of my pills have

> been

> >>>screened several times. My question is how much

> >>>damage is there to my medications that have been

> >>>screened several times? Has this ever been looked

> >>>into by anyone?

> >>>

> >>>Thanks in advance,

> >>>

> >>>Tom Savin

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

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