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Re: Pilot Radiation Benefit/Harm
Can you cite the article? I may want to look at it.
--- howard long <hflong@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Journal of American Board of Family Practice
> published an LNT article about theoretic harm to
> airline personnel (whose union he represented) a few
> years ago. The editor refused to publish a brief
> hormesis rebuttle with references, signed by myself,
> Myron Pollycove and Lewis Helgeson, my friend,
> health physicist and principle of Helgeson Nuclear
> Serices (manufacturer of radiation dose counters
> used at many nuclear power facilities). Lew
> introduced me to this often helpful chat box.
>
> Howard Long MD MPH
>
> L.GOV> wrote:
> OK, so the dose to his medicine was 50x less. That's
> more than 10x. I said
> that the dose from the x-ray machine was more than
> an order of magnitude
> less than what it'd receive during the flight. I'm
> not sure what your
> problem is with what I said. I even pointed out what
> an order of magnitude
> meant.
>
> The individual did not say he was a flight crew
> member (even pilots fly
> more than 20 times/year). I'm not aware of anyone
> who has flown for a 365
> days continuously.
>
> The number of publications that discuss peoples'
> concerns about any subject
> are indeed numerable (not innumerous), although I
> doubt it's worth the
> effort. The number of reputable (i.e. peer-reviewed)
> publications that
> discuss actual harm to women employed by airlines is
> quite numerable, and
> small. The number of reputable (i.e. peer-reviewed)
> publications that
> discuss the lack of actual harm to people ( I hate
> excluding any person
> based on biology) employed by airlines is quite
> numerable, and larger.
>
> And even after looking at the posting again, I'm
> unsure why you're going
> off on hormesis.
>
> There are references included in my posting that
> enable people to use
> peer-reviewed tools and publications to evaluate
> their doses during flights.
>
> Just trying to he helpful : )
>
> (Obviously my own opinions)
> Brian Rees
>
>
>
> At 01:03 PM 11/13/2004, you wrote:
> >I beg to differ:
> >
> >I once MEASURED the radiation dose during an
> intercontinental flight:
> >It was *** 50 times *** HIGHER than the background
> radiation at sea level.
> >
> >For a continuous flight of 365 days, the total
> radiation exceeds the
> >OCCUPATIONAL
> >limit of 5 Rads. This certainly is a point of
> concern to women employed by
> >the airlines, as can be verified by innumerous
> publications.
> >
> >Besides, I do not subscribe to the Hormesis theory
> that will soon find
> >(paid?) followers here and elsewhere, that
> advocates low (how much is
> >LOW?) X-Ray radiation is actually beneficial.
> >
> >Reuven Zach
> >Medical Physicist
> >
>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Rees"
>
> >To: "M Nivas" ;
> >Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:40 AM
> >Subject: Re: Airport screening and medicine
> >
> >
> >>Tom,
> >>
> >>I have measured the dose through a typical x-ray
> inspection machine at
> >>140-200 uR. (0.14 -0.20 mR) This is more than an
> order of magnitude (10x)
> >>less than the dose received during your flight.
> You can look up
> >>radiation doses received during a flight on a
> number of sites, Reference
> >>provided below. There are more references in the
> archives, use subject
> >>line below.
> >>
> >>Brian Rees
> >>
> >>Subject: RE: In-flight radiation doses
> >>From: "Edwards, Richard W"
> >>To:
> >>
> >>In the midst of all of this was a reference to
> on-line dose calculators.
> >>There's CARI, which is on a U.S. FAA web site
>
>>(http://www.cami.jccbi.gov/AAM-600/Radiation/600radio.html)
> and EPCARD,
> >>which is on the German National Research Center
> for Environment and
> >>Health web site
> (http://www.gsf.de/epcard/eng_start.php).
> >>
> >> >From: Bill Prestwich
> [mailto:prestwic@mcmaster.ca]
> >> >Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:53 AM
> >> >To: ?????? ??
> >> ...snip...
> >> >with no subject line. You can view the Radsafe
> archives at
> >> >http://www.vanderbilt.edu/radsafe/
> >>
> >>
> >>At 07:56 AM 11/13/2004, you wrote:
> >>>Greetings all:
> >>>
> >>>I fly a lot across the U.S. (20 times this year)
> and I
> >>>take several medications. Some of my pills have
> been
> >>>screened several times. My question is how much
> >>>damage is there to my medications that have been
> >>>screened several times? Has this ever been looked
> >>>into by anyone?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>>Tom Savin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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