[ RadSafe ] Re: Big Brother the spectroscopist

Fri Apr 1 17:55:51 CEST 2005

> Why do these "garbagy" sites even exist?  Get a copyright notice on your
> actual site, then tell anyone copying it to cease and desist from such 
> activity.  Of course you want other sites to link to your site since the 
> search engines give that a great deal of weight in how they rank pages.  I 
> note that the "garbagy" site mentioned below is on a university computer 
> system; why?
>
> I am quite sure you are just being paranoid about your problems with 
> Google. There are a host of reasons why the Google spiders will ignore a 
> site or fail to rank it highly.  For starters, you have very little 
> content the spiders can digest.  Meta tags do not help much these days, 
> and if you want to be shown on the first page of Google hits, you have to 
> have the best content on the subject at issue.  Further, the spiders are 
> wise to tricks like white text on a white background and other attempts to 
> fool them, and will penalize a site for such shenanigans.  The spiders 
> cannot see the text included in graphics, btw.  To summarize, get some 
> content on your site, then submit the site to Google so the spiders will 
> start visiting it again.
>
> Finally, I would hazard a guess that you do not have much of a chance in 
> the marketplace as long as you use proprietary computers.  Customers want 
> something that will run on a laptop they can buy anywhere.  While I am 
> sure you will argue your proprietary OS is superior, you have to cater to 
> what customers want.
>
> And I sure like your staff member resting on the shoe!
>
> Syd H. Levine
> AnaLog Services, Inc.
> Phone:  270-276-5671
> Telefax:  270-276-5588
> E-mail:  analog at logwell.com
> URL:  www.logwell.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dimiter Popoff" <didi at tgi-sci.com>
> To: <neildm at id.doe.gov>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:49 AM
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Big Brother the spectroscopist
>
>
>> Dave Neil,
>>
>> thanks for taking the time to check it.
>>
>>> Is this your site?  http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~apoulev/
>>
>> No, this is one of the garbagy alternatives. It exists on the net
>> since much later than the actual site (in my signature).
>>
>> That not only Google fails to find me is news to me,
>> I had not checked.
>>
>>> ... Google can be "gamed"
>>> by someone with time and/or a network of friends.
>>
>> I can see how Google can be tricked to place some search result below
>> others (I am a very experienced programmer myself, although playing
>> game-like kind of stuff on the net is something I don't have the
>> time for).
>> However, to make Google not put at all a matching page it knows about
>> on a list which has a total of 8 items takes friends with some influence,
>> I can say that.
>>
>> Dimiter
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Dimiter Popoff               Transgalactic Instruments
>>
>> http://www.tgi-sci.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: Big Brother the spectroscopist
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:13:44 -0700
>>> From: <neildm at id.doe.gov>
>>> To: <didi at tgi-sci.com>, <AnaLog at logwell.com>, <radsafe at radlab.nl>
>>>
>>> Is this your site?  http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~apoulev/
>>>
>>>  I found it right off using the search criteria you gave.
>>> But then, I use Metacrawler, which checks Google and several
>>> other sites and integrates the result.  This was second
>>> from the top on the list it returned.  Google can be "gamed"
>>> by someone with time and/or a network of friends. See the
>>> term Google-bombed.
>>> Dave Neil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
>>> Behalf Of Dimiter Popoff
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:08 PM
>>> To: AnaLog at logwell.com; radsafe at radlab.nl
>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Big Brother the spectroscopist
>>>
>>>
>>> > ... What they really want you to do is pay them
>>> > money for a better placement.  It is just good old capitalism; nothing
>>> > sinister at work here. ...
>>>
>>> Does not appear to be the case. They miss the true site at all and find
>>> both newer scratches and older dead pages with the same text.
>>>
>>>  The keywords I used were those I remember a customer had used to
>>> locate me about a month ago: +mca +hpge +truly +digital .
>>>  Out of 4 (2 older and one newer alternatives) all the wrong 3
>>> are found and there is no mentioning at all (and no next page with
>>> search results) of the actual page.
>>>
>>>  And don't be surprised if things begin to work again shortly (I have a 
>>> copy of the
>>> google reply I refer to, of course).
>>>
>>>  By the way, the google-bot stopped checking my site
>>> after a customer had found me and contacted me (almost a month ago;
>>> it used to come once or twice a week until then). Another coincidence,
>>> sure.
>>>
>>> > Relax.
>>>
>>> As soon as you can explain how this could occur I sure will, that's a 
>>> promise...
>>>
>>> Dimiter
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> Dimiter Popoff               Transgalactic Instruments
>>>
>>> http://www.tgi-sci.com
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <AnaLog at logwell.com>
>>> > To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>,
>>> > "Dimiter Popoff" <didi at tgi-sci.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Big Brother the spectroscopist
>>> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:42:09 -0500
>>> >
>>> > Google is fully capable of screwing things up on their own.  The are 
>>> > forever
>>> > changing how their robots rank pages, and the results are not always
>>> > pleasing to website owners.  What they really want you to do is pay 
>>> > them
>>> > money for a better placement.  It is just good old capitalism; nothing
>>> > sinister at work here.  Relax.
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Dimiter Popoff" <didi at tgi-sci.com>
>>> > To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:23 AM
>>> > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Big Brother the spectroscopist
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > I just discovered that a google search which is supposed to locate
>>> > > my site is locating a number of junky alternatives, like old (thus
>>> > > non-existant) addresses, a scratch version a friend of mine
>>> > > had put on his local server newer than the actual site etc.
>>> > > Recently a customer could find me, so the problem is relatively new
>>> > > (2-3 weeks).
>>> > > The reason is obviously in the search engine (I have made no
>>> > > changes to the site since).
>>> > > Now I know I have a number of enemies in the local (Bulgarian)
>>> > > government. However, their arms appear way too short to be able
>>> > > to influence Google; there is only one government I can think of
>>> > > which certainly could do that.
>>> > > Would anyone care to try a guess why this should be done?
>>> > > (I don't really expect anyone who would know to come in).
>>> > > Am I identified as an enemy simply because of the superior
>>> > > spectroscopy technology I happen to have developed? Economically
>>> > > this is microscopic, so I am really puzzled.
>>> > > I know how paranoid this sounds, and I wish I could wake up
>>> > > into a reality where it will be just that ...
>>> > >
>>> > > Dimiter
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > Dimiter Popoff               Transgalactic Instruments
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.tgi-sci.com
>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >
>>> > >
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