[ RadSafe ] Re: Nuclear Power Plant Effluents / EMP, "Nuclear War Survival Skills "

[John Jacobus]

My wife and I are very stoic about these stories.  You
can prepare for the nuclear attack, the "dirty bomb,"
etc., or get hit by a bus.  We refuse to buy duct tape
and plastic sheeting for our windows.  We have a
radio, and will stay inside or evacuate if necessary. 
We have a couple of days supplies in case we get
snowed in. 

Personally, I think some of the quotes you list are
from "nuts."  I refuse to live in fear of the
improbable.  Why are you worried about EMP?  Do you
think terrorist have nuclear weapons and
intercontinential missiles?  I am more concerned about
blackouts due to down powerlines.  EMP is different
from lightening due to the instantaneous peak.  If you
want to protect electronic equipment, use vacuum
tubes.


With regard to the TFP, study some basic statistics. 
If you have small values for cancer, any increases
with seem dramatic.  They claim an increase of 30%. 
Thirty percent of what?  Over what time frame?  Two
years, five years, twenty years?

Worry about the real problems, like that bus.

--- "Richard L. Hess" <lists at richardhess.com> wrote:

> At 05:26 PM 2/27/2005, John Jacobus wrote:
> >Out of curiosity, what actions or recommendations
> have
> >you and family taken?  Have you built fallout
> >shelters, store water, built electroscopes, etc?
> 
> Hello, John,
> 
> I'm trying to make sense of this all. I keep hearing
> so much doom and gloom 
> that I'm asking out of intellectual interest.
> 
> I do have two CDV-700s and an Aware RM-70 (IIRC).
> They are all G-M devices. 
> I don't have electroscopes, etc. I have not built a
> fallout shelter, but, I 
> have moved away from the LA Basin for other reasons
> to an area about 40 
> miles north of downtown Toronto--my wife's hometown.
> 
> In LA we used to store water and food, but don't do
> as much here. It was 
> for earthquake protection, not nuclear incidents. We
> keep a little here in 
> case we are blizzarded in.
> 
> I want to be informed to make decisions for my
> family--that was the 
> original intent of my joining the list. I had heard
> things around work like:
> 
> --"my brother works for the spook agency and he
> wants me to outfit my cabin 
> in the Sierras with a generator as a place to run
> to."
> 
> --"I lived in Montana and I wouldn't drive the Snake
> River route without a 
> Geiger Counter." (I did, and it showed background
> radiation peaking around 
> 20µR/hr near some lava outcroppings and a bit more
> at the lip of the huge 
> open-pit mine in Butte MT. It was down to about 5
> across the Canadian 
> prairies.)
> 
> This is pretty powerful stuff to hear when you've
> got two kids (at the time 
> around 5-8) and a wife and you travel a lot. Nothing
> I've done has made me 
> feel safer than joining this list, and I appreciate
> it.
> 
> My interest in EMP recently was started by a mention
> on an archives-related 
> mailing list and some people were making claims
> about EMP that sounded 
> rather, extravagant to say the least. It turns out
> from reading some of the 
> cited literature that the area of an EMP from a
> high-altitude blast is 
> continental. I haven't yet gotten to the strength of
> it. If someone 
> mentions something and it impacts work that I'm
> interested in, I like to 
> learn enough about it to confirm or debunk the
> claims.
> 
> The thought here is that as we migrate audio and
> video archives from analog 
> tape to digital storage (which may be on multiple
> hard-disk drives) that we 
> need to worry more about EMP wiping out the whole
> thing. Someone kindly 
> shot down that argument, but I've wanted to
> investigate enough to shoot it 
> down technically if it's bogus. More reading is in
> order.
> 
> I'm much more concerned about lightning than EMP,
> since it appears that the 
> light pole in front of my neighbor's home was taken
> out a few years ago by 
> a direct lightning hit. It also took out a fair
> amount of electronics in my 
> neighbor's home on the other (far) side. I'm taking
> reasonable precautions 
> to protect my equipment.
> 
> Also, my query about NGS/NPP effluents was in the
> spirit of trying to 
> understand the TFP how they can claim 30% increase
> in cancer when no 
> significant/measurable leaks are ever reported by
> the NGS which has the 
> responsibility to do such monitoring.
> 
> I do believe the scientists on this list that tell
> me that there is more 
> radiation in the coal-fired plant emissions than
> from an NGS.
> 
> So, no, I'm not digging a shelter, nor am I
> investigating membership in Ark 
> II which seems to be about 30-50 miles from me.
> 
> By the way, horrible happenings back in So. Cal.
> Looks like I got out in 
> time! Our home was on a decomposed granite hillside
> and from what I've 
> heard, nothing has happened. Stay dry!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
> 
> >
> >--- howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Nuclear War Survival Skills" by Cresson Kearny,
> > > upated 1987, 1999 addendum on Hormesis, Foreword
> by
> > > Edward Teller, 282pp "may be reproduced without
> > > obtaining permission from anyone" is available
> > > online free (hard cc $19.75 delivered) at
> > > www.oism.org/nwss I gave copies to all my family
> > > members. It
> >
> >=====
> >+++++++++++++++++++
> >"Baltimore is actually a very safe city if you are
> not involved in the 
> >drug trade."
> >DR. PETER BEILENSON, the city's health
> commissioner.
> >
> >-- John
> >John Jacobus, MS
> >Certified Health Physicist
> >e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
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+++++++++++++++++++
"Baltimore is actually a very safe city if you are not involved in the drug trade."
DR. PETER BEILENSON, the city's health commissioner.

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com


		
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