Re: High count with LSCh

[Kurt_Ungar@hc-sc.gc.ca]

03/18/98 10:03 AM
Kurt Ungar
Kurt Ungar
Kurt Ungar
03/18/98 10:03 AM
03/18/98 10:03 AM

If you are experiencing true chemiluminessence, it may be due to the
peroxidation of the warm pump oil as
air passes through the operating vacuum pump.  These peroxides can be
destroyed by heating the oil prior to measurements.
You may lose volatile radionuclides and radionuclide complexes if that is
what you were looking for.




schoenho @ via.at on 17/03/98 06:30:03 PM

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Von: HALEEM MAHMOUD SAID <mshaleem@dpc.kfupm.edu.sa>
An: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
Datum: Montag, 16. M=E4rz 1998 21:47
Betreff: High count with LSCh

>Hello safety netters
>
>I have this question regarding high count rate with the liquid
>scintillation counter.  Whenever a sample of oil vacuum pump of
>anccelerator is counted I get high count rate with initial count.
>However, when the sample is counted again latter on, the response is
>numerical value, and the value keep decreasing when counted repeatedly=

>over time until stalbilizes latter on like 24 hours latter.  The same
>thing occurred when counting saliva samples.  I was wondering if any o=
f
>you could give an explanation for this situation either from past
>experience or an educated guess.  Your help is very much appreciated.
>Thanks.
>
>
>Mahmoud Haleem
>KFUPM
>P.O.Box 1061
>Dhahran 31261
>Saudi Arabia
>mshaleem@dpc.kfupm.edu.sa
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Dear Mr. Mahmoud,
Thanks for your contribution, which confirms an observation I made abou=
t a
year ago. I remember very well that we had a smear sample from the vici=
nity
of a Fe-55 source. Since the area from which the smear sample was taken=
 was
lubricated, the smear sample contained some mineral oil. We also saw wi=
th
our Quantulus counters chemiluminescence (this counter offers the
possibility of measuring chemiluminescence independently of the sample)=
. It
took several days to decay. We had no time to go further into details, =
but
it would be worthwhile to do it now. Do you have any further observatio=
n,
for instance what another RADSAFER suggested, to measure the original
mineral oil? Please contact me for further exchange at my personal e-ma=
il
address.
In my opinion measurement of low beta-energy emitters is a very interes=
ting
and useful application of liquid scintillation measurements. However in=

some
cases chemiluminescence might interfere.
Regards,
Franz





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