Re: RE: radioactive material training for researchers

[Andrew Buchan <Andrew.Buchan@ehs.ucsb.edu>]

Thanks to all for your suggestions.

I will check out the Tide idea first in that it sounds like the least 
expensive way to go. The "invisible thief detection powder" sounds like 
the stuff they put on the fire alarm pulls at my old college to sniff 
out those who would pull a false alarms.

I will let you know how it pans out.

Seasons Greetings to you and your families!

regards
Andrew



On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:02:24 -0600 (CST) "Lamothe, Emelie" 
<lamothee@AECL.CA> wrote:

> 	Hi
> 
> 	When I train our Firefighters on "handling contaminated casualty",
> I've use "Invisible Thief Detection Powder" Because I seem to spill the
> stupid powder all over the place whenever I opened the bottle, I suspended a
> small amount of powder in about 200 ml of distilled water.  I then simply
> sprayed the liquid thief detection solution onto the casualty, turned off
> the lights and used a uvs-12 mineral light (black light) to show what they
> would see.  Worked well and demonstrated our points and techniques very
> well.  A big plus was how good our Firefighters felt knowing that they could
> deal  with radioactively and/or chemically contaminated casualty,
> 
> 	The stuff has been around our health center almost "forever".  The
> box says manufactured by the Criminal Research Products, Inc. in
> Conshohocken, Penn.. 
> 
> 	Good luck.
> 
> 	Emelie Lamothe
> 	lamothee@aecl.ca
> > ----------
> > From: 	Andrew Buchan[SMTP:Andrew.Buchan@ehs.ucsb.edu]
> > Reply To: 	radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> > Sent: 	Tuesday, December 22, 1998 1:13 PM
> > To: 	Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: 	Re: radioactive material training for researchers
> > 
> > In light of this request. I have a similar one. I will be teaching a 
> > basic training class for some undergrad bio students who will be using 
> > some H3, I want to use a material that shines under black light to 
> > show how contamination spreads. Has anyone done this? If so how 
> > effective was it, and what did you use as the mock contamination?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance
> > Andrew
> > 
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:53:27 -0600 (CST) "Gross, Karen M.(Health 
> > Phys.)" <karen_gross2@merck.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I work in a pharmaceutical research facility and we have been revising
> > our
> > > > basic radioactive material training course for researchers this past
> > year.
> > > > Although it is much more effective and interesting that what we were
> > > > previously using, there is always the problem of boring the
> > researchers.
> > > > In addition, there is definitely a large portion of training and
> > knowledge
> > > > about working safely with radioactive material that researchers will
> > only
> > > > gain from on-the-job training by experienced researchers.  
> > > > 
> > > > Keeping these two points in mind, I wanted to ask people what types of
> > > > demonstrations they include in their training to keep the researchers'
> > > > attention and to bridge that gap of "book" knowledge and
> > > > "practical/experience" knowledge which will minimize radiation
> > exposures
> > > > and maximize regulatory compliance.
> > > > 
> > > > Please reply to me in person at "karen_gross2@merck.com".
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance for you input.
> > > > 
> > > > Karen M. Gross
> > > > 
> > > > karen_gross2@merck.com
> > > > 
> > > > Phone:  (215) 652-3363
> > > > Fax:       (215) 652-3667
> > > > 
> > > > WP44C-2
> > > > P. O. Box 4
> > > > Merck & Co., Inc.
> > > > West Point, PA  19486
> > > > 
> > > > 
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UC Santa Barbara  fax: 805-893-8659
email: Andrew.Buchan@ehs.ucsb.edu
The above are my opinions and not
neccesarily those of UCSB. 


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