Re: personrem/personSievert

["Robert Denne" <rdenne@worldnet.att.net>]

I agree with Ruth to an extent and try consciously to use the term
person-rem.  This is in part due to a practice to use terms, thoughts, etc.,
that are not the typical norm, or at least my typical norm.  It keeps me on
my toes.  I am no way a proponent of any single bodies' rights and believe
women's rights to be degrading to women and affirmitive action degrading to
those that it tries to affirm.  I am also not offended by a person's usage
of man-rem and have heard many women in the field use it.

Unfortunately, in technical writings it harder to tell whether someone is
being derogatory or not, so I assume not.  When I am listing to someone say
"man-rem" or even "person-rem", there would have to be some pretty strong
intent on the speaker's part for me to hear something negative.

The point is, I know what you mean by man-rem and I know what you mean by
person-rem.  I think eventually, our profession will drift toward person-rem
more and more and there is no need to force it.  While we still have the
"man-rem" crowd around I intend to focus on what they have to teach and not
how they teach it.  A person can miss so much when the focus is distracted
by word choice.  I wish I had as much to offer as they do and hopefully
someday will.

Really, Really my opinion

Bob Denne
ATG

rdenne@worldnet.att.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Weiner, Ruth <rfweine@sandia.gov>
To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: personrem/personSievert


> At the risk of being repetitious: we have used "person-rem" and
> "person-sievert" since 1989.  I checked a few references, and BEIR V uses
> this  also.  We used this terminology in the WIPP compliance certification
> application.  The NRC uses it, I believe (at list we did as NRC
> contractors).  I first heard the term in the late 1980s, so I thought it
was
> general usage.   I do find it felicitous, though.
>
> Ruth F. Weiner, Ph. D.
> Sandia National Laboratories
> MS 0718, POB 5800
> Albuquerque, NM 87185-0718
> 505-844-4791; fax 505-844-0244
> rfweine@sandia.gov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neon John [mailto:johngd@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:18 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: personrem/personSievert
>
>
>
>
> William V Lipton wrote:
> >
> > I am appalled by those whose "pronoun envy" makes them see gender bias
> where
> > none exists.  Perhaps the following paragraph, from "A Handbook for
> > Scholars," by Mary-Clair van Leunen (NY, Alfred A. Knopf 1978) will be
of
> > some comfort:
> >
>
> Thank you posting that.  Given a person with a penchant for
> discriminating against someone based on how he or she pees, I've
> always wondered why certain people would think that coercing that
> person to change some verbiage would make any difference.  I tend to
> regard those who abuse "person" to either be uneducated or unskilled
> with the English language or both.  Just another of life's little
> irrationalities, I guess.
>
> John
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