[ RadSafe ] NET iquette

Dimiter Popoff didi at tgi-sci.com
Tue Aug 10 17:45:53 CDT 2010


I am not so sure how practical it will be to drop the "preferably".
It does not concern me, I have only been subscribed over the years
using my name and an email at a domain which identifies my affiliation
unambiguously.
 But I can imagine there are people who might be sources of useful
information and be unwilling to share their identity for various and
understandable, legitimate reasons - losing them would be a shame.
 After all I don't remember having many - if any - trolls here posting
without identifying themselves.
 The whole thing is too much fuss about nothing IMO.

The change of the reply field to point to the list is perhaps 20
years overdue, I suppose :-) . Hopefully it won't be too much
hassle to implement. Not a big deal either, but the correct thing
to do. Whoever has posted to the list is also subscribed and will
get the replies from the list.

And another "not big deal" but irritating nowadays: many posts contain
lines which are way too long. This makes quoting more of a hassle
(e.g. I had to reformat the paragraphs of the message I am quoting
now). No big deal but in plain text - as we post on this list - including
a CR every once in a while is no big deal either :-). Whenever possible
or at all applicable, that is.

Dimiter

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> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:42:42 -0500
> To: Radsafe <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette
> 
>  Actually, the rules clearly state "When posting to the list include at least 
> your full name and preferrably, if applicable, address, professional details,
> etc."  
> 
>  Note the preferrably, it is a suggestion and not a requirement. It has been this
> way since July 2008, the last time that the rules were modified: see for example:
> http://health.phys.iit.edu/radsaferules.html  
> 
>  In fact, the preferrably may be dropped shortly. Another change likely to be 
> coming is that the list will likely set the default reply back to the list.   
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Franz Schönhofer wrote:
> 
> > Sandy,
> > 
> > Again you disappoint me severely. 
> > 
> > The RADSAFE rules clearly state that the posters should identify themselves
> > and give their affiliation. So this is not a matter of "company policy".
> > This rule cannot be overruled in my opinion by the fact that somebody is
> > afraid of retaliation by his company. I have already posted that I do not
> > understand why people do not send their messages from their private e-Mail
> > connection - I repeat it! 
> > 
> > Many mails, recently some which were intended to ridicule me and blackmail
> > me were sent on RADSAFE. You defended a well known troll, you explained that
> > you know another person, who stated that I never have submitted anything
> > reasonable to RADSAFE. It might be that you know him, but he should stand
> > for his message by giving his name and affiliation. I am almost sure that
> > most of RADSAFErs do not know him. At least I do not know him. 
> > 
> > There are RADSAFE rules and they should not be substituted by
> > "company/organisation policy". I have above clearly shown how company
> > restrictions can be overcome. 
> > 
> > Again, somebody who cannot stand for his views and opinions should not post
> > on RADSAFE.
> > 
> > Franz
> > 
> > Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> > MinRat i.R.
> > Habicherg. 31/7
> > A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> > AUSTRIA
> > 
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Perle, Sandy
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 18:01
> > An: Jeff Terry; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> > Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette
> > 
> > It all comes down to the company/organization polifcy regarding internet
> > use/E-Mail or other means of communication. It is not or right unless it's
> > dealt with at the specific facility. Radsafe has continued to be a venue to
> > exchange ideas. The platform opportunities are endless, evev if the
> > membership are not.
> > 
> > Let's focus on the many issues that face us today and generations that come
> > in the future and less as to when or how a post eventually makes it to the
> > list. Now that would be ridiculous.
> > 
> > Sandy Perle
> > Sent from my Windows phone from AT&T
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:39 AM
> > To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette
> > 
> > 
> > Apparently, it appears that I do have such free time.
> > 
> > Some private and state/federal employers feel that it is a component of
> > public outreach to allow employees to post to a list of this nature. Some
> > prefer to have their people post a tiny disclaimer. I don't see how this
> > could possibly be a problem?
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello..at>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Do they have so much
> >> spare time during working hours to deal with RADSAFE?
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