[ RadSafe ] NET iquette

Wed Aug 11 10:56:33 CDT 2010

Excellent point Sandy. Certain folks involved in this conversation should MUZZEL it; especially the louder ones....

John

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Perle, Sandy
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:51 PM
To: Franz Schönhofer; 'Jeff Terry'; 'Radsafe'
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette

My last response to you regarding this Franz. Stop this leap to Nazism, absolutely ridiculous. A rule on a list server that has a moderator, like a club or social organization, can modify membership rules. We're not talking about killing millions of people.

Your response is really beneath you as both an individual and as a professional, and is uncalled for.

No further comment from me regarding this.

Sandy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Perle, Sandy <SPerle at mirion.com>; 'Jeff Terry' <terryj at iit.edu>; 'Radsafe' <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette

If you think that rules can be modified to meet the norm (????) of "today"
you justify all those deads of the Nazi "legislation", the holocaust)

How did you ever, who clearly justifies by this mail the murder of several
million people dare to post something like this on RADSAFE.

Get back to reality.

Franz

Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Perle, Sandy
Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 21:53
An: Jeff Terry; Radsafe
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette

Rules can always be modified to meet the needs of the day. What was
important 20 years ago may not be the norm of today. Rules are not static
and should be dynamic. Lastly, the list moderator who takes on all of the IT
and moderation duties has the responsibility to establish the rules, or, he
who holds the ball makes the rules. That worked for me for 61 years!

Sandy
Sent from my Windows phone from AT&T

-----Original Message-----
Fro: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:43 PM
To: Radsafe <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette

Actually, the rules clearly state "When posting to the list include at least
your full name and preferrably, if applicable, address, professional
details, etc."

Note the preferrably, it is a suggestion and not a requirement. It has been
this way since July 2008, the last time that the rules were modified: see
for example: http://health.phys.iit.edu/radsaferules.html

In fact, the preferrably may be dropped shortly. Another change likely to be
coming is that the list will likely set the default reply back to the list.

Jeff

On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Franz Schönhofer wrote:

> Sandy,
>
> Again you disappoint me severely.
>
> The RADSAFE rules clearly state that the posters should identify
themselves
> and give their affiliation. So this is not a matter of "company policy".
> This rule cannot be overruled in my opinion by the fact that somebody is
> afraid of retaliation by his company. I have already posted that I do not
> understand why people do not send their messages from their private e-Mail
> connection - I repeat it!
>
> Many mails, recently some which were intended to ridicule me and blackmail
> me were sent on RADSAFE. You defended a well known troll, you explained
that
> you know another person, who stated that I never have submitted anything
> reasonable to RADSAFE. It might be that you know him, but he should stand
> for his message by giving his name and affiliation. I am almost sure that
> most of RADSAFErs do not know him. At least I do not know him.
>
> There are RADSAFE rules and they should not be substituted by
> "company/organisation policy". I have above clearly shown how company
> restrictions can be overcome.
>
> Again, somebody who cannot stand for his views and opinions should not
post
> on RADSAFE.
>
> Franz
>
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Perle, Sandy
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 18:01
> An: Jeff Terry; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette
>
> It all comes down to the company/organization polifcy regarding internet
> use/E-Mail or other means of communication. It is not or right unless it's
> dealt with at the specific facility. Radsafe has continued to be a venue
to
> exchange ideas. The platform opportunities are endless, evev if the
> membership are not.
>
> Let's focus on the many issues that face us today and generations that
come
> in the future and less as to when or how a post eventually makes it to the
> list. Now that would be ridiculous.
>
> Sandy Perle
> Sent from my Windows phone from AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:39 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] NET iquette
>
>
> Apparently, it appears that I do have such free time.
>
> Some private and state/federal employers feel that it is a component of
> public outreach to allow employees to post to a list of this nature. Some
> prefer to have their people post a tiny disclaimer. I don't see how this
> could possibly be a problem?
>
> Jeff
>
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Franz Schönhofer
<franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
> wrote:
>
>> Do they have so much
>> spare time during working hours to deal with RADSAFE?
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