[ RadSafe ] "Countdown to Zero" disarmament movie

[Doug Aitken]

John wrote:
"The real concern in that area of the world is many of those currently in
TRUE power survived the 1980-1988 Iran/Iraq war and brought with them a
particular kind of mentality. In those days, those fighting for Iran needed
weapons; so the leadership enlisted the help of any volunteer (young men,
old men, women, and even children). They handed these folks their weapons: a
red sash for their forehead and a Koran. These individuals rushed armed
Iraqi positions to physically take Iraqi weapons. These are the same folks
who are in true power over Iran."

We must remember that the Iraqis (and the US's favored allay Saddam
Hussein!) were armed by the US...... which explains the distrust and
animosity of the Iranians in power towards the US......

He also wrote:
" Peace through strength will always work with oppressive aggressors."

Precisely the attitude of the Iranians (and their opinion - somewhat
justified by past events - of the US)......

NOTE: I am not in favor of nuclear arms for Iran: just pointing out that it
is necessary to look at all sides of an argument.....

Regards
Doug
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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dixon, John E.
(CDC/ONDIEH/NCEH)
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Shane Connor; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "Countdown to Zero" disarmament movie

All,

The real concern in that area of the world is many of those currently in
TRUE power survived the 1980-1988 Iran/Iraq war and brought with them a
particular kind of mentality. In those days, those fighting for Iran needed
weapons; so the leadership enlisted the help of any volunteer (young men,
old men, women, and even children). They handed these folks their weapons: a
red sash for their forehead and a Koran. These individuals rushed armed
Iraqi positions to physically take Iraqi weapons. These are the same folks
who are in true power over Iran. They are known as the Besiege (spelling?).
This is the current mentality the US (yes and all of Europe) has to address.
The same kind of 'personality' existed with the Japanese during WWII. 

This being the current state of affairs in Iran (and possibly other Arab
nations), means that more reasonable, moderate individuals will not assume
power anytime soon. Unless a well orchestrated "coupe d'état" occurs, It
could be generations before these individuals could control this region of
the world and thereby affect 'change.' 

So where does this leave the rest of the free world?  Unilaterally disarm
and hope these folks will do the same? I hope not. Peace through strength
will always work with oppressive aggressors. 

John Dixon 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Connor
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:14 PM
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: [ RadSafe ] "Countdown to Zero" disarmament movie

Regarding Iran, I share the concerns their leadership is a dire threat, and
need to be dealt with severely before they ever unleash a nuke.

However, I'm cautious not to demonize the whole population there.

Many of the citizens there are clearly not in lock-step with their Arab
neighbors in hatred of Israel or USA. Many consider themselves to be
Persians, not Arabs, nor are most even Sunni Muslims, like the Arabs from
Saudi Arabia who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks.

More enlightening, after 9/11, many students there, numbering in the tens of
thousands, alone, amongst all Islamic nations, under threat and intimidation
by their govt literally beating them off the streets repeatedly, held
candlelight vigils in sympathy for the 9/11 victims in Tehran and elsewhere
in Iran. Quite the contrast, when compared to the jubilation expressed
amongst Arab nations then.

http://www.bestirantravel.com/culture/wtc-vigil.html

Just saying, if/when Iranian nuke facilities get attacked, I hope the
'collateral damage' does not radicalize those allies we have there amongst
the younger, and next generation of, Iranians coming up.

Shane Connor
www.ki4u.com
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