[ RadSafe ] Marine safety and whaling

Chris Steinmann crsteinmann at gmail.com
Sat Mar 13 07:44:04 CST 2010


I also like spaceweather.com.  It is amazing to see the differences (day to
day) in the proton density of the solar winds.

-cs

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Dustin G. Miller <dgmiller at enercon.com>wrote:

> I beg to differ and wish to clarify one thing.  The global warming that the
> Earth routinely experiences has everything to do with radiation FROM THE
> SUN.   Granted...the ad nauseum topic(s) of global warming on this list
> dealt a lot more with the politics. (Honestly, I stopped reading after
> awhile.)
>
> I invite you to visit www.spaceweather.com and they have some great
> information on the sunspot cycles and how they affect the Earth's
> temperature.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Dustin Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Jess L. Addis
> III
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:46 PM
> To: 'Dan'; 'juan Stevens'
> Cc: 'Doug Huffman'; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Marine safety and whaling
>
> Hey, sorry I asked. I just consider the people on the list some of the most
> well informed and thoughtful people I have had the pleasure to know, as it
> were.
>
> I'm not out to save the whales.
>
> Global warming did not "HAVE TO DO WITH RADIATION" either, but it went on
> ad
> nauseam.
>
> I'd delete the post if I could. Feel free to use your delete button or
> reply
> off list.
>
> Thanks,
> LA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan [mailto:hotgreenchile at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:00 PM
> To: juan Stevens
> Cc: Doug Huffman; Jess L. Addis III; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Marine safety and whaling
>
> Dear Juan:
>
> It's Friday night and the boys are a little wild.
>
> Dan W McCarn
> HotGreenChile at gmail.com
> +1-505-310-3922
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:15 PM, juan Stevens <kc5twe at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree with you both and my heart goes out to you and your very
> > justified concern
> > about saving the whales.  I am a member of the ASPCA and love
> > animals BUT WHAT
> > THE HECK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH RADIATION??  IS THIS A RAD-SAFE
> > FORUM or NOT??
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Doug Huffman <doug.huffman at wildblue.net>
> > To: Jess L. Addis III <ajess at clemson.edu>
> > Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> > Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 6:50:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Marine safety and whaling
> >
> > Forcing moral equivalency between beasts and men is waay above my pay
> > grade.  Racism stems from a false premise.  Culture-ism will out.
> > Species-ism is death.
> >
> > On 3/12/2010 19:37, Jess L. Addis III wrote:
> >> I watched as a big Japanese "research" commercial whaling vessel
> >> ran over a
> >> protestor vessel (ecological terrorist?) and I have a question
> >> that's been
> >> on my mind a lot lately. Yes, I am an omnivore, but:
> >>
> >> I know this is a safety list, but soooo many things have come and
> >> gone as of
> >> late that have stood up to scrutiny and were not strictly safety
> >> related, I
> >> want to ask a question.
> >>
> >> How many here think it's OK to harvest/kill/murder, whales?  Pick
> >> the word
> >> that makes you most comfortable/uncomfortable?
> >>
> >> Some "first world" industrialized nations that are high tech,
> >> generally very
> >> well educated nations, the Japanese and maybe Norway come to mind,
> >> think
> >> it's good, as in good to eat whales, to kill/harvest whales.
> >>
> >> It has dawned on me over time that whales have huge brains, big
> >> eyes that
> >> see very well (day or night under water or above) and their species
> >> have
> >> been around much, much longer than bipedal primates (humans) of any
> >> stripe.
> >>
> >> These mammals, air breathers,  have been on the planet and have
> >> watched the
> >> sun and moon go up and go down and watched the night sky with all
> >> its stars
> >> for millions of years longer than our species have, may be really
> >> "smart"
> >> and self aware, much (just) like we humans are.
> >>
> >> They sing their songs and may exchange stories and pass on history to
> >> successive generations just like we do and may have been doing it for
> >> millions of years longer.
> >>
> >> Most of their species didn't kill each other for any reason and
> >> make war,
> >> much less cut hearts out and throw people down steps of pyramids
> >> and such,
> >> to make the sun come up and make rain fall.
> >>
> >> Just sayn'
> >>
> >> What do ya'll think?
> >>
> >> I'll understand if you guys want to throw me down the steps for
> >> asking.
> >>
> >> LA
> >>
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