[ RadSafe ] interesting new question

Wed Oct 27 14:37:33 CDT 2010

RADSAFErs,

Here we have again an example of a useless discussion: The only important question would be: Is this approach legal or not? If it is not - and in my country it would be absolutely illegal and would cause an outcry of public opinion if it were known - then it has to be stopped at once unconditionally. If it were legal, opponents could only try to have  the relevant regulations reversed. Personal preferences do not count! 

I think it is a waste of time to discuss opinions like "low doses" as an argument - I remember what a few RADSAFE párticipants call "low dose"! 

I am waiting for an explanation.

Best regards,

Franz

---- Ahmad Al-Ani <ahmadalanimail at yahoo.com> schrieb:
> 
> 
> Kid you not. On a daily bases, we radiation experts spend most of our times 
> trying to reverse the radio-phobia almost all humans have. 
> 
> Regrettably, this situation was a result of experts like you, and perhaps me, 
> breaching how dangerous radiation is, regardless of the dose. We have to move on 
> and relief the governments and people of undue burden of their fear of 
> radiation, and nuclear technology. 
> 
> 
> If you do not want radiation at all, you need to build a house made of lead or 
> steel, and stay there to avoid natural background. Have you done 
> your investigation about the doses from these devices, you would understand why 
> I took such example. 
> 
> Ahmad
> ________________________________
> From: Dr. Francis Y. Tsang <francistsang at cox.net>
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList 
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> Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 7:49:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] interesting new question
> 
> Come on!  You must be kidding....
> 
> Security Cameras produce almost no radiation.  These Vans produce x-ray
> radiation no matter how low the level.  You just don't irradiation citizens
> or human beings without their acceptance or knowledge.  Period!
> 
> Need to find out how is doing this!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Ahmad Al-Ani
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:11 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] interesting new question
> 
> As the doses are so low, what difference would it be from all those security
> camera's in public areas?
> 
> Anyone have access to licensing procedure for these devices? such as
> guidelines of operation, license application forms and requirements, etc.
> 
> Ahmad
> 
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:58 AST Stabin, Michael wrote:
> 
> >
> >http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/19/x-ray-vans-security-measure-invas
> ion-privacy/?test=latestnews
> >
> >This particular application of radiation raises some interesting new
> questions in the justification-regulation-optimization philosophy of health
> physics (I have always thought that optimization comes after regulation,
> although the ICRP lists them in the opposite order). Exposing unknowing
> persons to radiation (admittedly low level) to ostensibly prevent terrorism,
> particularly when the exposed persons may not be citizens of the country
> doing the irradiatiing, is a new balancing of risks and benefits that has
> not been part of the normal equation until now. And the balance is different
> if we are talking about daily screening of everything or particular
> screening of containers, naval vessels, etc., in the case of a specific,
> credible risk scenario. Fun stuff philosophically, frightening stuff
> practically.
> >
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP
> >Associate Professor of Radiology and Radiological Sciences
> >Department of Radiology and Radiological Sciences
> >Vanderbilt University
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> >e-mail    michael.g.stabin at vanderbilt.edu
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