[ RadSafe ] Smart meters

Maury maurysis at peoplepc.com
Thu Jun 2 22:10:21 CDT 2011


Hi Ted & All,
I intended no insult -- I was thinking of cell phones in my "joke". The 
more complex electric meters seem certain to be an added new expense for 
electric power. It seems to me that power costs are generally rising and 
changing to a more costly meter and a more complex billing system 
appears more costly than simply raising rates across the board without 
replacing the existing system. People in govt seem determined to 
increase govt revenue aside from whatever cute means they devise to 
produce that outcome. My electric rate also is in ascension.
Best,
Maury&Dog
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On 6/2/2011 6:28 PM, Ted de Castro wrote:
> We've had the Smart Meters here in the SF bay area for a year or so - 
> and for me the kWhr per month has gone up - so I don't know whether 
> the new or the old measured kWhr more accurately - but they DO measure 
> differently.
>
> We have also been given the choice ----- for now ---- of the current 
> rate structure or the time sensitive one.  The lower times on the time 
> sensitive rate schedule are a little lower - BUT the higher times are 
> MUCH higher - AND to actually lower your bill you have to radically 
> change your life schedule and "live" at odd times ---- unless of 
> course you are a shift worker and then it may work out.  Really 
> working at it you MAY achieve a 10% decrease - maybe.
>
> Oh yeah - and either way - there is an added charge on the bill to pay 
> for the smart meters.  We DO have the option of NOT having them - but 
> of course at a higher rate.
>
> So - you may have noticed by now a common thread - HIGHER RATE.
>
> Smart Meters are most decidedly not a good thing for most rate payers.
>
> On 6/2/2011 4:17 PM, Maury wrote:
>> Dog asked me to reassure everyone to not sweat the little gadgets 
>> bearing alarms ... <g>
>> Best,
>> Maury
>> ============================
>> On 6/2/2011 5:52 PM, Emer, Dudley (CONTR) wrote:
>>> That's what I've been hearing from others. I'm still waiting for 
>>> ours to be installed.
>>> I'll start worrying about RF burns now.
>>>
>>> Dudley Emer
>>> Geophysicist
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Smart meters
>>>
>>> My power bill is based on what time-of-day I use it, and the bills 
>>> are significantly (at least 25%) lower.  There was a startup cost, 
>>> to install a 2nd meter, but well worth it.
>>>
>>> Brent Rogers
>>> Sydney Australia
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 03/06/2011, at 5:51, "Emer, Dudley (CONTR)"<EMERDF at nv.doe.gov>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> http://www.sdge.com/documents/smartmeter/EPRI_1022270.pdf
>>>>
>>>> The real problem for the user won't be cancer from the RF but a 
>>>> heart attack from the power bill when utilities start charging you 
>>>> on a tiered hourly basis rather than a fixed-price monthly integral.
>>>>
>>>> Dudley Emer
>>>> Geophysicist
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:33 PM
>>>> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Smart meters
>>>>
>>>> I hope that someone on the list who is more knowledgeable than I 
>>>> about the new wireless electric metering technology can provide a 
>>>> comment about the claims of harm made on the website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.smartmeterdangers.org/
>>>>
>>>> This method of providing electric use date is replacing the 
>>>> traditional monthly personal visit by a meter reading person, 
>>>> obviously a significant cost saver for a utility.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Barish, PhD CHP
>>>>
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