[ RadSafe ] WHO: Cell phone use and physics; Raman2

Steven Dapra sjd at swcp.com
Sat Jun 4 14:13:37 CDT 2011


June 4

         Is this in any way germane to the matter at hand?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_amplification

         Or this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_scattering

         The article has some notes and references that may be useful.

         Or this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_spectroscopy

Steven Dapra


At 10:23 AM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
>Um, the inelastic scattering of light was 
>predicted by Smekal using quantum theory prior to Raman's discovery in 1928.
>
>Adolf Smekal, "Zur Quantentheorie der 
>Dispersion," NATURWISSENSCHAFTEN 11, 873 (1923).
>
>For a direct link see: http://www.springerlink.com/content/r1q0325731k8x326/
>
>That would be "The Quantum Theory of 
>Dispersion." for those not trained in German ; )
>
>In Germany, I believe that it is still called 
>Smekal-Raman Scattering. You can still find this in the literature.
>
>I don't know why Smekal was dropped but early papers described it:
>
>The Smekal-Raman Spectra of SiHCl3, CHFCl2 and 
>CF2Cl2, Phys. Rev. 40, 908­913 (1932)
>
>Modern Density Functional Theory programs can 
>all calculate Raman spectra accurately, see ADF, Gaussian, etc.
>
>One can accurately use QM to calculate x-ray 
>raman, as well: Recent Developments in the 
>Analysis of X-Ray Raman Scattering, J. A. 
>Soininen, J. J. Rehr, A. Mattila, S. Galambosi, 
>and K. Hämälainen, AIP Conf. Proc. 882, 102 (2007).
>
>Never let facts get in the way of a good story.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:25 AM, Busby, Chris wrote:
>
> > Dr Sartori
> >
> > Lets not get too hung up on quantum theory.
> > I suggest you look into the Raman effect. 
> This cannot be explained by quantum theory except as a fudge.
> > Optical electronic quanta drive the release of infra red rotational quanta.
> > You would say the probability of that is 
> zero, before someone showed the effect by 
> experiment using benzene and sunlight coming 
> through a crack in the wall of his shed, then got the Nobel prize.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > Chris Busby
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
>
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