[ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.

[JPreisig at aol.com]

Radsafe/Franz:
 
     Thanks for setting me straight, Franz.  I do  believe in radiocarbon 
dating.
 
     I won't say I don't believe in evolution.  It  is an interesting 
story.  I allow for an alternative that
every creature, person, animal, organism was genetically engineered  
individually.  If some being did do
this genetic engineering work, he is a very much stronger scientist than  
Franz Schoenhofer.
Still, Franz Schoenhofer knows a fair amount of science also.   Christians 
in America do believe in
Creationism --- perhaps I will send a few of them to knock at your  door.  
I'm sure they would welcome
the opportunity.
 
     Well, I guess I will now just have to settle for  knowing a great deal 
about a person from 1300 AD, who 
had been buried in the Shroud of Turin (from his DNA).  That would be  
pretty neat also.  As for
re-creating this person from total knowledge of his DNA from Chemicals,  
Biochemistry, Etc.,
I will leave that as a homework assignment for you, Franz, if you so  
desire.  If the person in the 
shroud isn't Jesus, then Oh Well.  I guess it wasn't meant to  be.
 
    Ya Folla???? (Robert Shaw, hard drinking actor; was in  the movies the 
Sting, Jaws, From Russia with
Love, The Taking of Pelham One, Two, Three and so on.  In Jaws he  speaks 
of the sinking of the USS
Indianapolis and what awaited its crew in the waters of the Pacific  Ocean).
 
    Have a good week, Franz...
 
    Joe Preisig
 
 
   
 
 
In a message dated 12/27/2012 12:17:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
franz.schoenhofer at chello.at writes:

Dear  Joe,
Sorry to disturb your highly sophisticated speculations by some facts.  They
are simple: this socalled image of Jesus is a fake from medeaval  times.
Unless you have access and time to go deeper into this topic, look  at
Wikipedia. (Citation: In 1988 the University of Oxford, the University  of
Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - all of them  being
world authorities on radiocarbon dating found independently that the  shroud
can be dated to between 1260 and 1390.) The Roman Catholic Church  accepted 
this result.  I know that there are some forces
which try  to convince people about the stories of the bible and to "prove",
that  Jesus was a historical person. Maybe he was, but then one would need  
to
have first hand information - not second, third or fourth hand one,  even
citing "evidence" written down several hundred years later.
I was  always amused how some so-called scientists tried desperately to 
refer 
the  discrepancy to "contamination" by sampling and analysing. I never read 
of  any calculation, how 33 AC could be mistaken for the 13th century. 
Those  
people performing analysis are absolute professionals and know, how to  
avoid 
contamination.

I know that creationists doubt principally the  C-14 mesurements, because 
their results are against their believe. Are you  US Radsafers aware that 
creationism does not play any role in Europe or  anywhere else? Even the 
most 
stubborn roman catholic church has  acknowledged the concept of evolution!

Best  regards,

Franz

Sorry Joe, to disturb your dream about cloning  Jesus Christ. Forget it.

Best  wishes,

Franz


sprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From:  JPreisig at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:02 AM
To:  radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: [ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud,  Etc.

Dear Radsafe,

I hope you all are  well.

Was watching a TV (USA) show this evening  about  some fellow trying to
use the Shroud of Turin
to develop a  good image of the person who had been buried in the  shroud
(Jesus???).

Perhaps we scientists can do  a bit better  nowadays.

The shroud has blood  on it in fair  quantities.  If the blood was
still alive,  scientists might possibly
clone the original being from the live  blood.

Secondly, the DNA itself should eventually  yield  ALL??? the
characteristics of the person who had
been buried  in the shroud.  Hair color, length of nose, eye color,
height???,  weight???, characteristics
of the various body organs, susceptibility to  various cancers???,. and so
on.  Wonder if the keepers of
the  shroud would allow scientists to take enough blood for a  modern
analysis???

And perhaps someday, once the  exact structure,  composition etc. of
the DNA is known,
one might  someday construct a person from the DNA.  Certainly this   would
be quite a difficult
undertaking.  Would the result of this  work be Jesus???

Could we someday construct dinosaurs  from total  knowledge of their
DNA???

Have a good  week at work or at home.

Regards,   Joe  Preisig




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