[ RadSafe ] "overwhelming" number of scientists andclimatechange

Thu Jul 26 10:04:36 CDT 2012

Radsafe:

      Google News has an item today about  Greenland melting.  Wow.

      Curious how an ice sheet melts in Summer and  refreezes in Winter???  
Why is this news???

      Karen Street,

            Glad to  hear about your Cochlear implants.  Beethoven could 
have used one or  two???
      RADSAFE is pretty pro-nuclear!!!  Are  you surprised by this???

            Stop  blogging and start listening, learning, reading etc.  
Radsafe does invite  intellectual,
     or sometimes, just technical discussion.  But  come loaded for Bear 
here --- even Lurkers on
     Radsafe have some pretty severe Scientific  Credentials.

          Want to know about  Nuclear Power???  Try NukeWorker or any 
website run by the
     American Nuclear Society.  See also the  Health Physics website run 
out of Idaho State
     University (you might find it by following links  through the ISU 
Physics Department).
     The Health Physics Society has a website and they  have Associate 
Memberships.
     A bit expensive, but they eventually send you the  journal Health 
Physics.

          Still got the  Nuclear Bug???  Try Grad Study in Health Physics 
and/or Nuclear
     Engineering.  I realize this is not  necessarily an easy path to take.

          Good  Luck,     Regards,    Joseph R. (Joe)  Preisig

  PS --- If I were a PhD student right now in  Meteorology/Atmospheric 
Sciences, I might contemplate
           making a  Jump to Medical School --- there's a better future in 
Medicine right  now???
           I hear Law  School is not that good a career path these days.  
Of course, if  Meteorology
           and/or  Atmospheric Science are what consumes/interests you, 
then you'll have to get  that
           PhD  anyway.

In a message dated 7/25/2012 10:03:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ajess at clemson.edu writes:

Greenland melted  yesterday!

Cheers,
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu  
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of  franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:09 PM
To:  Terryj at iit.edu; Karen.Street at sbcglobal.net; Jerry Cohen; The 
International  Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ]  "overwhelming" number of scientists 
andclimatechange

Jerry, Terry,  Karen,

I wondered the last days, whether I was on the right list -  climate 
change, global warming and the like instead of radiation protection,  nuclear 
energy (and the like). Karen seems to be a (polite) troll, because she  changes 
(again politely) the subject away from radiation protection. She uses  a lot 
of psychological tricks, like "I am curious what you believe on global  
warming" and similar. If you really want to know my "opinion", which does not  
count at all: I have no opinion, because I have (except common sense) no  
knowledge about climatology nor paleoclimatology. Do you or anybody else on  
this list believe that the climate will behave as  being determined by an  
opinion poll????????This is absurd!!!!!!

Jerry, as for your belief on  having another beer: This is a very clever 
decision and I would like to  join  you, but unfortunatély I have in spite of 
the high temperatur in  Vienna a sour throat and this means I should not 
drink any cold liquid - and a  warm beer is the worst drink I can think  
of!!!!!!!

Cheers,

Franz

---- Jerry Cohen  <jjc105 at yahoo.com> schrieb:
> Karen,, I am curious--how do we  determine what the overwhelming number 
> of
scientists believe   or not believe. Of the 100 or so scientisst who I 
might personally know,  almost all of them believe that concern over global 
warming is nonsense. Of  course, the number of scientisists who I might 
personally know is a small  frection of the total number, but I suspect it might be 
a representative  sample. Has anyone done a statistically valid survey on 
the subject?
As to  what do I believe-----
I believe I'll have another  beer.

________________________________
From: Karen Street  <Karen_Street at sbcglobal.net>
To: The International Radiation  Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List  
<radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Sent: Tue, July 24, 2012 12:12:54  PM
Subject: [ RadSafe ] since we're talking about climate change

In  the past and just now, people on this list who don't accept climate 
change  have posted that they don't accept climate change.

I am curious as to  what you do believe.

Please avoid explaining that the overwhelming  number of scientists are 
wrong or read this or that this great scientist  thinks other scientists are 
wrong.

• Is Earth warming, and at what rate  (in °C/decade)?
• What is the cause? Don't use the word natural, but give  particular 
mechanisms, such as Earth is moving closer to the sun.

When  I ask climate skeptics/deniers these questions, it feels like pulling 
teeth to  get answers other than, "you're wrong, you child of Satan." Or 
the ones about  natural or scientists are just wrong or here is my scientist 
(inject name of  novelist or journalist) who disagrees.

I really am  curious.
--
Best wishes,
Karen Street
Friends Energy  Project
blog  http://pathsoflight.us/musing/index.php

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