[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1003, Issue 1

Jeff Terry terryj at iit.edu
Wed Jun 27 10:45:48 CDT 2012


Coal is going to be needed for steelmaking. It is far too valuable to burn. 

Jeff

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On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:

> Hi, Maury.
> 
> While the essay is worthwhile, it lacks some of the balance that would
> make it more useful.  For example, the author says, "From the social and
> economic side of things, one might take much more notice of the global
> warming scare campaign if it were not so obvious that many of its most
> vociferous supporters have other agendas."  He then lists several, a
> couple of which I think are a stretch, but he doesn't bother to
> acknowledge that of its most vociferous deniers also have other agendas.
> 
> 
> While I haven't actually heard anyone make the argument that coal needs
> to be preserved for the benefit of future generations, I have heard the
> argument that oil it too useful to waste on transportation, when other
> energy resources can do that.  I've been hearing that since it was
> predicted that a new ice age was coming, so I don't think the idea
> (which, by the way, I think has merit) can be blamed on climate change
> fans.
> 
> Similarly, there are people who favor a global government, and who want
> a redistribution of wealth between the haves (or have-mores) and
> have-nots, and who want the influence welded by religions.  While some
> of them may have incorporated dealing with climate change into their
> goals, those goals all predate the climate change discussion by many
> decades.  The author would have achieved some balance to point out that
> some of those who fight most strongly against climate change research
> and/or action favor energy corporations more powerful than many national
> governments, continued and even accelerated wealth accumulation in
> smaller percentage of the population, and, well, religion, but focusing
> more on things like "go forth and multiply" and "subdue" than on good
> stewardship.
> 
> I think I've made my position on the subject clear; I don't actually
> care if climate change is occurring, let alone if it is caused by man:
> Fouling one's nest and wasting one's resources are sub-optimal, and
> should be reduced when possible.  I think it is a good thing for people
> to think and write about the subject, because I believe that thinking
> and writing are good things for people to do, and not enough people do
> them on a regular basis.  This essay is an OK piece of work, but I think
> the author could have done a little more thinking before he started
> writing. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:15 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1003, Issue 1
> 
> Thanks Maury for an excellent review of the current state of climate
> so-called 
> science.
> 
>> This essay (click on link below) by Paltridge affords one 
>> of the best perspectives on Science and Climate that I've ever seen.
>> 
>> I hope many of you will find it equally so.
> 
> http://afr.com/p/lifestyle/review/science_held_hostage_in_climate_Uamwgc
> 7zXEsU6RbQJ5MWIJ
> 
> Among many other virtues, the article illustrates the process of
> relativistic 
> nonsense migrating from the arts and humanities into the sciences.
> 
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