[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1003, Issue 1

[Brennan, Mike (DOH)]

What I really wish someone would get on with is putting out the
underground coal fires, such as the one that has been burning in
Centralia, PA for 50 years.  There are apparently thousands of them
worldwide, and I hope everyone is in agreement that they are not good.

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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Terry
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:46 AM
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Coal is going to be needed for steelmaking. It is far too valuable to
burn. 

Jeff

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On Jun 27, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)"
<Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:

> Hi, Maury.
> 
> While the essay is worthwhile, it lacks some of the balance that would
> make it more useful.  For example, the author says, "From the social
and
> economic side of things, one might take much more notice of the global
> warming scare campaign if it were not so obvious that many of its most
> vociferous supporters have other agendas."  He then lists several, a
> couple of which I think are a stretch, but he doesn't bother to
> acknowledge that of its most vociferous deniers also have other
agendas.
> 
> 
> While I haven't actually heard anyone make the argument that coal
needs
> to be preserved for the benefit of future generations, I have heard
the
> argument that oil it too useful to waste on transportation, when other
> energy resources can do that.  I've been hearing that since it was
> predicted that a new ice age was coming, so I don't think the idea
> (which, by the way, I think has merit) can be blamed on climate change
> fans.
> 
> Similarly, there are people who favor a global government, and who
want
> a redistribution of wealth between the haves (or have-mores) and
> have-nots, and who want the influence welded by religions.  While some
> of them may have incorporated dealing with climate change into their
> goals, those goals all predate the climate change discussion by many
> decades.  The author would have achieved some balance to point out
that
> some of those who fight most strongly against climate change research
> and/or action favor energy corporations more powerful than many
national
> governments, continued and even accelerated wealth accumulation in
> smaller percentage of the population, and, well, religion, but
focusing
> more on things like "go forth and multiply" and "subdue" than on good
> stewardship.
> 
> I think I've made my position on the subject clear; I don't actually
> care if climate change is occurring, let alone if it is caused by man:
> Fouling one's nest and wasting one's resources are sub-optimal, and
> should be reduced when possible.  I think it is a good thing for
people
> to think and write about the subject, because I believe that thinking
> and writing are good things for people to do, and not enough people do
> them on a regular basis.  This essay is an OK piece of work, but I
think
> the author could have done a little more thinking before he started
> writing. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:15 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1003, Issue 1
> 
> Thanks Maury for an excellent review of the current state of climate
> so-called 
> science.
> 
>> This essay (click on link below) by Paltridge affords one 
>> of the best perspectives on Science and Climate that I've ever seen.
>> 
>> I hope many of you will find it equally so.
> 
>
http://afr.com/p/lifestyle/review/science_held_hostage_in_climate_Uamwgc
> 7zXEsU6RbQJ5MWIJ
> 
> Among many other virtues, the article illustrates the process of
> relativistic 
> nonsense migrating from the arts and humanities into the sciences.
> 
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