[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

Jeff Terry terryj at iit.edu
Sun Aug 17 15:48:44 CDT 2014


No guarantee that people will remember to do that every time. 

Jeff

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> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
> 
> why is it such a problem? What's wrong with simply putting the name and email of the posting person
> in the subject line, instead of what now is [Radsafe]. Somewhat longer but marked by brackets
> so still easily machine-identifiable for thread chasing code.
> The [Radsafe] can just go as the From: address will already carry that information.
> 
> Dimiter
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>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:47 -0500
>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List"
>>    <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>> 
>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached. 
>> 
>> We've monitored the situation on other listservers that have changed there policy and too many messages come with no attribution. 
>> 
>> The problem know is that as more groups adopt the spam blocking standard, we are losing much of the group. 
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This was the concern with both University of Illinois when under Melissa Woo
>>> and at Vanderbilt under Mike Stabin. Threats of litigation and other
>>> unbelievable accusations led to their terminating the list server on their
>>> systems. A real shame!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sandy
>>> Retired, Consultant
>>> 
>>> From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Date:  Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
>>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>> 
>>> The listserver can support the new standard but the University does not want
>>> posts not having the posters name and email attached.
>>> 
>>> University wants post properly attributed to the poster as opposed to the
>>> the new standard below:
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new standard would require all posts to be:
>>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:59 pm, The International Radiation Protection (Health
>>> Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Blah, Blah, Blah  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can the university support the new standard?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dan ii
>>>> 
>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home ­ New Mexico)
>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Excessive bounces to their email addresses. They must have adopted the
>>>>> same standard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why the NRC?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home ­ New Mexico)
>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This is
>>>>>>> the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of the
>>>>> major
>>>>>>> internet service providers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>> just
>>>>>>> end the list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jeff
> 
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