[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

Sun Aug 17 15:53:16 CDT 2014

I think he means for the Listserver to insert that information 
automatically - just as it does "[RADSAFE]" - all in all a quite 
reasonable suggestion!  It seems reasonable that if a fixed field can be 
inserted that with some ingenuity someone could find a way to insert a 
variable - "sender" - field.

On 8/17/2014 1:48 PM, Jeff Terry wrote:
> No guarantee that people will remember to do that every time.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>> why is it such a problem? What's wrong with simply putting the name and email of the posting person
>> in the subject line, instead of what now is [Radsafe]. Somewhat longer but marked by brackets
>> so still easily machine-identifiable for thread chasing code.
>> The [Radsafe] can just go as the From: address will already carry that information.
>>
>> Dimiter
>>
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>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:47 -0500
>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List"
>>>     <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>
>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>>>
>>> We've monitored the situation on other listservers that have changed there policy and too many messages come with no attribution.
>>>
>>> The problem know is that as more groups adopt the spam blocking standard, we are losing much of the group.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This was the concern with both University of Illinois when under Melissa Woo
>>>> and at Vanderbilt under Mike Stabin. Threats of litigation and other
>>>> unbelievable accusations led to their terminating the list server on their
>>>> systems. A real shame!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sandy
>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>
>>>> From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Date:  Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
>>>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>
>>>> The listserver can support the new standard but the University does not want
>>>> posts not having the posters name and email attached.
>>>>
>>>> University wants post properly attributed to the poster as opposed to the
>>>> the new standard below:
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The new standard would require all posts to be:
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:59 pm, The International Radiation Protection (Health
>>>> Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Blah, Blah, Blah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can the university support the new standard?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home  New Mexico)
>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Excessive bounces to their email addresses. They must have adopted the
>>>>>> same standard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why the NRC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home  New Mexico)
>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This is
>>>>>>>> the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of the
>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>> internet service providers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> end the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>
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