[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

Sun Aug 17 15:57:21 CDT 2014

If anyone knows how to do it. I'll pass it along to our tech people. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com> wrote:
> 
> I think he means for the Listserver to insert that information automatically - just as it does "[RADSAFE]" - all in all a quite reasonable suggestion!  It seems reasonable that if a fixed field can be inserted that with some ingenuity someone could find a way to insert a variable - "sender" - field.
> 
> 
>> On 8/17/2014 1:48 PM, Jeff Terry wrote:
>> No guarantee that people will remember to do that every time.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> 
>>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>>> why is it such a problem? What's wrong with simply putting the name and email of the posting person
>>> in the subject line, instead of what now is [Radsafe]. Somewhat longer but marked by brackets
>>> so still easily machine-identifiable for thread chasing code.
>>> The [Radsafe] can just go as the From: address will already carry that information.
>>> 
>>> Dimiter
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:47 -0500
>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List"
>>>>    <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>> 
>>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the posters name and email to be attached.
>>>> 
>>>> We've monitored the situation on other listservers that have changed there policy and too many messages come with no attribution.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem know is that as more groups adopt the spam blocking standard, we are losing much of the group.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This was the concern with both University of Illinois when under Melissa Woo
>>>>> and at Vanderbilt under Mike Stabin. Threats of litigation and other
>>>>> unbelievable accusations led to their terminating the list server on their
>>>>> systems. A real shame!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sandy
>>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>> 
>>>>> From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>> Date:  Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
>>>>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>> 
>>>>> The listserver can support the new standard but the University does not want
>>>>> posts not having the posters name and email attached.
>>>>> 
>>>>> University wants post properly attributed to the poster as opposed to the
>>>>> the new standard below:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new standard would require all posts to be:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:59 pm, The International Radiation Protection (Health
>>>>> Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blah, Blah, Blah
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can the university support the new standard?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home  New Mexico)
>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Excessive bounces to their email addresses. They must have adopted the
>>>>>>> same standard.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why the NRC?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home  New Mexico)
>>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This is
>>>>>>>>> the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of the
>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>>> internet service providers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> end the list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>> 
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