[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
Sander Perle
sandyfl at cox.net
Sun Aug 17 22:48:41 CDT 2014
Jeff, Marc Martz is the listserver Owner. I can send you his E-Mail address.
Regards,
Sandy
Retired, Consultant
From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Date: Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 8:09 PM
To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
<radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
That's odd too because messages I get from AMRSO have the sender's address
as the to field.
I will talk to them.
Jeff
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:02 PM, "Lemieux, Bryan P" <blemieux at uthsc.edu> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> The AMRSO listsever does this, I believe automatically. I am sure the keeper
> of AMRSO could help you get this set up. They show a header that its AMRSO,
> but on behalf of <this person with email address>....
>
> Bryan Lemieux
> ________________________________________
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] on behalf of Jeff Terry [terryj at iit.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:57 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>
> If anyone knows how to do it. I'll pass it along to our tech people.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think he means for the Listserver to insert that information automatically
>> - just as it does "[RADSAFE]" - all in all a quite reasonable suggestion! It
>> seems reasonable that if a fixed field can be inserted that with some
>> ingenuity someone could find a way to insert a variable - "sender" - field.
>>
>>
>>> On 8/17/2014 1:48 PM, Jeff Terry wrote:
>>> No guarantee that people will remember to do that every time.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the
>>>>> posters name and email to be attached.
>>>> why is it such a problem? What's wrong with simply putting the name and
>>>> email of the posting person
>>>> in the subject line, instead of what now is [Radsafe]. Somewhat longer but
>>>> marked by brackets
>>>> so still easily machine-identifiable for thread chasing code.
>>>> The [Radsafe] can just go as the From: address will already carry that
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> Dimiter
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Dimiter Popoff, TGI http://www.tgi-sci.com
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/sets/72157600228621276/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:47 -0500
>>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing
>>>>> List"
>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>
>>>>> We have dealt with many of those issues and that is why they require the
>>>>> posters name and email to be attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've monitored the situation on other listservers that have changed
>>>>> there policy and too many messages come with no attribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem know is that as more groups adopt the spam blocking standard,
>>>>> we are losing much of the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was the concern with both University of Illinois when under Melissa
>>>>>> Woo
>>>>>> and at Vanderbilt under Mike Stabin. Threats of litigation and other
>>>>>> unbelievable accusations led to their terminating the list server on
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> systems. A real shame!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>>> Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>>>>>> Mailing
>>>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, August 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
>>>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>>>>> List"
>>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The listserver can support the new standard but the University does not
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> posts not having the posters name and email attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> University wants post properly attributed to the poster as opposed to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> the new standard below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The new standard would require all posts to be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:59 pm, The International Radiation Protection
>>>>>> (Health
>>>>>> Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blah, Blah, Blah
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can the university support the new standard?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home New Mexico)
>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Excessive bounces to their email addresses. They must have adopted the
>>>>>>> same standard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why the NRC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home New Mexico)
>>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of the
>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>> internet service providers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> end the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
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