[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
Sander Perle
sandyfl at cox.net
Tue Aug 19 14:43:00 CDT 2014
Thanks Ted,
I have my own domain as well, basically for storing photos from back to 1999
and creating the photo web pages. Some advertising from external companies,
etc. I also have opportunity for a large number of e-mail addresses but
never used any of them. However, this is a good suggestion for others to
consider. So far cox.net is not having an issue. Don’t know about gmail.
Regards,
Sandy
Retired, Consultant
From: Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:38 PM
To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
<radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
OF COURSE - and thank-you Sandy for that clarification. (I thought you
where "blaming" individual posters for not doing something one should
reasonably expect competent listserver software to do, ie. annotate a
message with the identity of the poster)
Since I have ALWAYS accessed RADSAFE with not only my own email address
but my own domain as well and thus be free to say whatever I wished,
that thought never even occurred to me. BUT apparently some email hosts
started rejecting the list - like Yahoo, and only now some organizations
are joining in.
I know changing email hosts is a pain - BUT you can get your own domain
for a little as $3.95 a year and hosting can be cheap too - mine is only
$40 per year for GREAT service and NONE of these issues! So - I hope we
can find a way to make this all work DESPITE these issues.
As for saving ALL the posts - what can I say - I'm a packrat - (although
a much more pejorative term has come into common usage recently) and it
has proven useful many times. If I want something saved for future
reference - I don't expect someone else to do it for me! It even helped
once when RADSAFE lost some!! And mine are backed up as well - nice
thing about having 19T capacity on my home network (RADSAFE posts take
VERY little of that!!!
On 8/19/2014 12:11 PM, Sander Perle wrote:
> Hi Ted,
>
> Your note, I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other individuals and
> their
> systems”. I was referring to the fact that all of the systems who reject
> list servers, or don’t allow including their affiliation, that is a problem
> that is not a Radsafe problem. If these individuals have an issue with their
> employer, they could become a member using their personal e-mail and read or
> write to their heart’s content. For Radsafe to consider shutting down
> because a significant number of members are losing their access (recently
> the NRC) would be a serious void to those of us who have been on Radsafe for
> a long time, and, the excellent information that is provided. I have been a
> member for a very long time, but not as long as you!
>
> I am impressed that you have all of the posts!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Sandy
> Retired, Consultant
>
> From: Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
> Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM
> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>
> I was going to resist chiming in here BUT ...
>
> Having been with RADSAFE since day 1 as a BBS - I like it and I also
> enjoy the diversions which are most usually technical in nature and
> illuminating of the personalities of the posters. When they are not AND
> don't interest me - I can always skip to the next message (I never
> delete a RADSAFE message and have them ALL archived since listserver
> days began - thought I had the BBS ones too - but can't find them).
>
> I never thought of it as a source that was REQUIRED to provide free
> professional consultation (don't the CHPs have some sort of resource to
> serve that purpose) and have always appreciated the help kindly and
> freely given when solicited. I see it as more of a community than a
> resource and feel as if I have almost gotten to know many people whom I
> have never met.
>
> The moderation has been light handed and therefore GREAT and very
> appreciated - ESPECIALLY considering these legal trials and tribulations
> they have had to put up with and which we have never known about until
> just now! I can't imagine how hard it must be to convince an
> organization to continue to host it!
>
> I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their
> systems".
>
> I am consulting a friend who is VERY expert in the web and listservers
> so see if he can offer a solution to this obnoxious new protocol.
> Hopefully we find some way to keep it all working.
>
> Ted de Castro
>
>
> On 8/19/2014 11:11 AM, Dan McCarn wrote:
>> Dear Group:
>>
>> My 2 cents as well: I enjoy the ad hoc nature of RADSAFE even when the
>> topics get a little odd. That said, I've not noticed too much piling on
>> after a thread is exhausted. And when I do, it's easy enough to dismiss
>> them. I think the level of moderation is adequate for the group. Jeff has
>> stepped-in on occasion, but otherwise has left the floor open for
>> discussion.
>>
>> Best!
>>
>> Dan ii
>>
>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I guess that is one way to look at it. I hadn't been thinking
>>> about it like that.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> As we all agree that Radsafe is worthwhile, the issue isn¹t with IIT or
>>>> Radsafe, it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their systems.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sandy
>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>
>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>> Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>>> Mailing
>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM
>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>> List"
>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>
>>>> I agree that RADSAFE is very worthwhile. My concern is that we are losing
>>>> about 125-150 people per month as more groups start following the DMARC
>>>> email standard.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 10:39 AM, "Brennan, Mike (DOH)"
>>>> <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I believe that RADSAFE is very worthwhile. It has given me the chance
>>> to see
>>>>> knowledgeable people discuss parts of the rad biz that I don't have much
>>>>> experience with. It has encouraged me to think about some of the
>>> nuances that
>>>>> have improved my understanding of the Big Picture. It has offered me a
>>> place
>>>>> where I can offer the odd bit of radiation related humor that my wife
>>> doesn't
>>>>> get. I sincerely hope it continues.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy Perle
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:08 AM
>>>>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of those on the list aren't posting anyway, they lurk. John is
>>> correct
>>>>> that Radsafe has served it's function well and should continue, even
>>> with less
>>>>> membership.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone won 't provide the required info, delete them from the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandy
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:52 AM, JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The RADSAFE list server has been a big help for rad monitor related
>>>>>> issues (among other things). While ivory tower thoughts are great,
>>>>>> nothing beats real experience. Since we're losing "experienced"
>>>>>> people due to retirement, it seems that, as long as they're still
>>>>>> willing to respond to posted questions, it qualifies as one of the
>>>>>> best industry 'knowledge transfer processes'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - -jmr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Rich
>>>>>> 312-269-3768
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>>> To: The International Radiation Protection Mailing List
>>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>> Date: 08/17/2014 12:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>> Sent by: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This
>>>>>> is the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of
>>>>>> the major internet service providers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>> just end the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
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