[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

Tue Aug 19 17:42:54 CDT 2014

Except those of us that don't use Google+

Bruce Bugg
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On Aug 19, 2014 6:26 PM, "David Hunter" <david.hunter at huntergeophysics.com>
wrote:

> A Google Group should solve your problem...
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Dave the grave Hunter
> Hunter Geophysics
>
> 03 9913 2259
> 0488 501 261
> david.hunter at huntergeophysics.com
>
> Sent from a mobile device when away from office. Please excuse brevity.
>
> On 20/08/2014, at 6:53 AM, Brad Keck <bradkeck at mac.com> wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > As both a poster AND a lurker, I share your enthusiasm for the free
> exchange of ideas in RadSafe, and I have no problem personally applying my
> own "filter" as needed if someone goes off the deep end!
> >
> > I confess I don't exactly know what the DMARC standard is, but anything
> we can do to encourage members to work around it seems a good thing to me
> -  seems to me that almost everyone has a personal address they could use
> if that helps the forum continue to be representative of the diverse
> working groups that we have and to assist the broad exchange of ideas.
> >
> > Keep up the good work, Rad Safers!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Sander Perle wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Ted,
> >>
> >> I have my own domain as well, basically for storing photos from back to
> 1999
> >> and creating the photo web pages. Some advertising from external
> companies,
> >> etc. I also have opportunity for a large number of e-mail addresses but
> >> never used any of them. However, this is a good suggestion for others to
> >> consider. So far cox.net is not having an issue. Don’t know about
> gmail.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sandy
> >> Retired, Consultant
> >>
> >> From:  Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
> >> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> Mailing
> >> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >> Date:  Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:38 PM
> >> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> List"
> >> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
> >>
> >> OF COURSE - and thank-you Sandy for that clarification. (I thought you
> >> where "blaming" individual posters for not doing something one should
> >> reasonably expect competent listserver software to do, ie. annotate a
> >> message with the identity of the poster)
> >>
> >> Since I have ALWAYS accessed RADSAFE with not only my own email address
> >> but my own domain as well and thus be free to say whatever I wished,
> >> that thought never even occurred to me. BUT apparently some email hosts
> >> started rejecting the list - like Yahoo, and only now some organizations
> >> are joining in.
> >>
> >> I know changing email hosts is a pain - BUT you can get your own domain
> >> for a little as $3.95 a year and hosting can be cheap too - mine is only
> >> $40 per year for GREAT service and NONE of these issues! So - I hope we
> >> can find a way to make this all work DESPITE these issues.
> >>
> >> As for saving ALL the posts - what can I say - I'm a packrat - (although
> >> a much more pejorative term has come into common usage recently) and it
> >> has proven useful many times. If I want something saved for future
> >> reference - I don't expect someone else to do it for me! It even helped
> >> once when RADSAFE lost some!! And mine are backed up as well - nice
> >> thing about having 19T capacity on my home network (RADSAFE posts take
> >> VERY little of that!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/19/2014 12:11 PM, Sander Perle wrote:
> >>> Hi Ted,
> >>>
> >>> Your note, I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other
> individuals and
> >>> their
> >>> systems”. I was referring to the fact that all of the systems who
> reject
> >>> list servers, or don’t allow including their affiliation, that is a
> problem
> >>> that is not a Radsafe problem. If these individuals have an issue with
> their
> >>> employer, they could become a member using their personal e-mail and
> read or
> >>> write to their heart’s content. For Radsafe to consider shutting down
> >>> because a significant number of members are losing their access
> (recently
> >>> the NRC) would be a serious void to those of us who have been on
> Radsafe for
> >>> a long time, and, the excellent information that is provided. I have
> been a
> >>> member for a very long time, but not as long as you!
> >>>
> >>> I am impressed that you have all of the posts!!!
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Sandy
> >>> Retired, Consultant
> >>>
> >>> From:  Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
> >>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> Mailing
> >>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >>> Date:  Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM
> >>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> List"
> >>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
> >>>
> >>> I was going to resist chiming in here BUT ...
> >>>
> >>> Having been with RADSAFE since day 1 as a BBS - I like it and I also
> >>> enjoy the diversions which are most usually technical in nature and
> >>> illuminating of the personalities of the posters.  When they are not
> AND
> >>> don't interest me - I can always skip to the next message (I never
> >>> delete a RADSAFE message and have them ALL archived since listserver
> >>> days began - thought I had the BBS ones too - but can't find them).
> >>>
> >>> I never thought of it as a source that was REQUIRED to provide free
> >>> professional consultation (don't the CHPs have some sort of resource to
> >>> serve that purpose) and have always appreciated the help kindly and
> >>> freely given when solicited.  I see it as more of a community than a
> >>> resource and feel as if I have almost gotten to know many people whom I
> >>> have never met.
> >>>
> >>> The moderation has been light handed and therefore GREAT and very
> >>> appreciated - ESPECIALLY considering these legal trials and
> tribulations
> >>> they have had to put up with and which we have never known about until
> >>> just now!  I can't imagine how hard it must be to convince an
> >>> organization to continue to host it!
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their
> >>> systems".
> >>>
> >>> I am consulting a friend who is VERY expert in the web and listservers
> >>> so see if he can offer a solution to this obnoxious new protocol.
> >>> Hopefully we find some way to keep it all working.
> >>>
> >>> Ted de Castro
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/19/2014 11:11 AM, Dan McCarn wrote:
> >>>> Dear Group:
> >>>>
> >>>> My 2 cents as well: I enjoy the ad hoc nature of RADSAFE even when the
> >>>> topics get a little odd.  That said, I've not noticed too much piling
> on
> >>>> after a thread is exhausted.  And when I do, it's easy enough to
> dismiss
> >>>> them.  I think the level of moderation is adequate for the group.
> Jeff has
> >>>> stepped-in on occasion, but otherwise has left the floor open for
> >>>> discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best!
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan ii
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
> >>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
> >>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
> >>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home  New Mexico)
> >>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
> >>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot
> com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Sandy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, I guess that is one way to look at it. I hadn't been thinking
> >>>>> about it like that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jeff,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As we all agree that Radsafe is worthwhile, the issue isn¹t with
> IIT or
> >>>>>> Radsafe, it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their
> systems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sandy
> >>>>>> Retired, Consultant
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
> >>>>>> Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> >>>>> Mailing
> >>>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >>>>>> Date:  Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM
> >>>>>> To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> Mailing
> >>>>> List"
> >>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >>>>>> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree that RADSAFE is very worthwhile. My concern is that we are
> losing
> >>>>>> about 125-150 people per month as more groups start following the
> DMARC
> >>>>>> email standard.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 10:39 AM, "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)"
> >>>>>> <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I believe that RADSAFE is very worthwhile.  It has given me the
> chance
> >>>>> to see
> >>>>>>> knowledgeable people discuss parts of the rad biz that I don't
> have much
> >>>>>>> experience with.  It has encouraged me to think about some of the
> >>>>> nuances that
> >>>>>>> have improved my understanding of the Big Picture.  It has offered
> me a
> >>>>> place
> >>>>>>> where I can offer the odd bit of radiation related humor that my
> wife
> >>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>> get.  I sincerely hope it continues.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> >>>>>>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Perle
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:08 AM
> >>>>>>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> Mailing List
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many of those on the list aren't posting anyway, they lurk. John is
> >>>>> correct
> >>>>>>> that Radsafe has served it's function well and should continue,
> even
> >>>>> with less
> >>>>>>> membership.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If someone won 't provide the required info, delete them from the
> list.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sandy
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:52 AM, JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The RADSAFE list server has been a big help for rad monitor
> related
> >>>>>>>> issues (among other things). While ivory tower thoughts are great,
> >>>>>>>> nothing beats real experience.  Since we're losing "experienced"
> >>>>>>>> people due to retirement, it seems that, as long as they're still
> >>>>>>>> willing to respond to posted questions, it qualifies as one of the
> >>>>>>>> best industry 'knowledge transfer processes'.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - -jmr
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> John Rich
> >>>>>>>> 312-269-3768
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From:   Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
> >>>>>>>> To:     The International Radiation Protection Mailing List
> >>>>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> >>>>>>>> Date:   08/17/2014 12:43 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject:        [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
> >>>>>>>> Sent by:        radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
> >>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting.
> This
> >>>>>>>> is the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some
> of
> >>>>>>>> the major internet service providers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using
> that
> >>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time
> to
> >>>>>>>> just end the list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>>>>
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