[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
David Hunter - Hunter Geophysics
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Thu Aug 21 19:40:59 CDT 2014
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On 20 Aug 2014, at 8:42 am, CFRBUG <cfrbug at gmail.com> wrote:
> Except those of us that don't use Google+
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> Bruce Bugg
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> On Aug 19, 2014 6:26 PM, "David Hunter" <david.hunter at huntergeophysics.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A Google Group should solve your problem...
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Dave the grave Hunter
>> Hunter Geophysics
>>
>> 03 9913 2259
>> 0488 501 261
>> david.hunter at huntergeophysics.com
>>
>> Sent from a mobile device when away from office. Please excuse brevity.
>>
>> On 20/08/2014, at 6:53 AM, Brad Keck <bradkeck at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> As both a poster AND a lurker, I share your enthusiasm for the free
>> exchange of ideas in RadSafe, and I have no problem personally applying my
>> own "filter" as needed if someone goes off the deep end!
>>>
>>> I confess I don't exactly know what the DMARC standard is, but anything
>> we can do to encourage members to work around it seems a good thing to me
>> - seems to me that almost everyone has a personal address they could use
>> if that helps the forum continue to be representative of the diverse
>> working groups that we have and to assist the broad exchange of ideas.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work, Rad Safers!
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Sander Perle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Ted,
>>>>
>>>> I have my own domain as well, basically for storing photos from back to
>> 1999
>>>> and creating the photo web pages. Some advertising from external
>> companies,
>>>> etc. I also have opportunity for a large number of e-mail addresses but
>>>> never used any of them. However, this is a good suggestion for others to
>>>> consider. So far cox.net is not having an issue. Don’t know about
>> gmail.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sandy
>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>
>>>> From: Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
>>>> Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>> Mailing
>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:38 PM
>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>> List"
>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>
>>>> OF COURSE - and thank-you Sandy for that clarification. (I thought you
>>>> where "blaming" individual posters for not doing something one should
>>>> reasonably expect competent listserver software to do, ie. annotate a
>>>> message with the identity of the poster)
>>>>
>>>> Since I have ALWAYS accessed RADSAFE with not only my own email address
>>>> but my own domain as well and thus be free to say whatever I wished,
>>>> that thought never even occurred to me. BUT apparently some email hosts
>>>> started rejecting the list - like Yahoo, and only now some organizations
>>>> are joining in.
>>>>
>>>> I know changing email hosts is a pain - BUT you can get your own domain
>>>> for a little as $3.95 a year and hosting can be cheap too - mine is only
>>>> $40 per year for GREAT service and NONE of these issues! So - I hope we
>>>> can find a way to make this all work DESPITE these issues.
>>>>
>>>> As for saving ALL the posts - what can I say - I'm a packrat - (although
>>>> a much more pejorative term has come into common usage recently) and it
>>>> has proven useful many times. If I want something saved for future
>>>> reference - I don't expect someone else to do it for me! It even helped
>>>> once when RADSAFE lost some!! And mine are backed up as well - nice
>>>> thing about having 19T capacity on my home network (RADSAFE posts take
>>>> VERY little of that!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/19/2014 12:11 PM, Sander Perle wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ted,
>>>>>
>>>>> Your note, I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other
>> individuals and
>>>>> their
>>>>> systems”. I was referring to the fact that all of the systems who
>> reject
>>>>> list servers, or don’t allow including their affiliation, that is a
>> problem
>>>>> that is not a Radsafe problem. If these individuals have an issue with
>> their
>>>>> employer, they could become a member using their personal e-mail and
>> read or
>>>>> write to their heart’s content. For Radsafe to consider shutting down
>>>>> because a significant number of members are losing their access
>> (recently
>>>>> the NRC) would be a serious void to those of us who have been on
>> Radsafe for
>>>>> a long time, and, the excellent information that is provided. I have
>> been a
>>>>> member for a very long time, but not as long as you!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am impressed that you have all of the posts!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandy
>>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>> Mailing
>>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM
>>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>> List"
>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>
>>>>> I was going to resist chiming in here BUT ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Having been with RADSAFE since day 1 as a BBS - I like it and I also
>>>>> enjoy the diversions which are most usually technical in nature and
>>>>> illuminating of the personalities of the posters. When they are not
>> AND
>>>>> don't interest me - I can always skip to the next message (I never
>>>>> delete a RADSAFE message and have them ALL archived since listserver
>>>>> days began - thought I had the BBS ones too - but can't find them).
>>>>>
>>>>> I never thought of it as a source that was REQUIRED to provide free
>>>>> professional consultation (don't the CHPs have some sort of resource to
>>>>> serve that purpose) and have always appreciated the help kindly and
>>>>> freely given when solicited. I see it as more of a community than a
>>>>> resource and feel as if I have almost gotten to know many people whom I
>>>>> have never met.
>>>>>
>>>>> The moderation has been light handed and therefore GREAT and very
>>>>> appreciated - ESPECIALLY considering these legal trials and
>> tribulations
>>>>> they have had to put up with and which we have never known about until
>>>>> just now! I can't imagine how hard it must be to convince an
>>>>> organization to continue to host it!
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their
>>>>> systems".
>>>>>
>>>>> I am consulting a friend who is VERY expert in the web and listservers
>>>>> so see if he can offer a solution to this obnoxious new protocol.
>>>>> Hopefully we find some way to keep it all working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted de Castro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/19/2014 11:11 AM, Dan McCarn wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Group:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2 cents as well: I enjoy the ad hoc nature of RADSAFE even when the
>>>>>> topics get a little odd. That said, I've not noticed too much piling
>> on
>>>>>> after a thread is exhausted. And when I do, it's easy enough to
>> dismiss
>>>>>> them. I think the level of moderation is adequate for the group.
>> Jeff has
>>>>>> stepped-in on occasion, but otherwise has left the floor open for
>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan ii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>>>>>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>>>>>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>>>>>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home New Mexico)
>>>>>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
>>>>>> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot
>> com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, I guess that is one way to look at it. I hadn't been thinking
>>>>>>> about it like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As we all agree that Radsafe is worthwhile, the issue isn¹t with
>> IIT or
>>>>>>>> Radsafe, it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their
>> systems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>>>> Retired, Consultant
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>>>>>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>> List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM
>>>>>>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>> Mailing
>>>>>>> List"
>>>>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that RADSAFE is very worthwhile. My concern is that we are
>> losing
>>>>>>>> about 125-150 people per month as more groups start following the
>> DMARC
>>>>>>>> email standard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 10:39 AM, "Brennan, Mike (DOH)"
>>>>>>>> <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe that RADSAFE is very worthwhile. It has given me the
>> chance
>>>>>>> to see
>>>>>>>>> knowledgeable people discuss parts of the rad biz that I don't
>> have much
>>>>>>>>> experience with. It has encouraged me to think about some of the
>>>>>>> nuances that
>>>>>>>>> have improved my understanding of the Big Picture. It has offered
>> me a
>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>> where I can offer the odd bit of radiation related humor that my
>> wife
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> get. I sincerely hope it continues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy
>> Perle
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:08 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>> Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many of those on the list aren't posting anyway, they lurk. John is
>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>> that Radsafe has served it's function well and should continue,
>> even
>>>>>>> with less
>>>>>>>>> membership.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If someone won 't provide the required info, delete them from the
>> list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:52 AM, JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The RADSAFE list server has been a big help for rad monitor
>> related
>>>>>>>>>> issues (among other things). While ivory tower thoughts are great,
>>>>>>>>>> nothing beats real experience. Since we're losing "experienced"
>>>>>>>>>> people due to retirement, it seems that, as long as they're still
>>>>>>>>>> willing to respond to posted questions, it qualifies as one of the
>>>>>>>>>> best industry 'knowledge transfer processes'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - -jmr
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John Rich
>>>>>>>>>> 312-269-3768
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> To: The International Radiation Protection Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 08/17/2014 12:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>>>>>> Sent by: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting.
>> This
>>>>>>>>>> is the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some
>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the major internet service providers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using
>> that
>>>>>>>>>> method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time
>> to
>>>>>>>>>> just end the list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>
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